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« on: May 15, 2009, 11:29:33 AM » |
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After you initially take off on your bike in 1st gear do you use the clutch after that when shifting up through the gears? I usually dont and I was just looking for some feedback or to see if that is harmful. Thanks!
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« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2009, 11:33:04 AM » |
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You can do that, but I would imagine if not done "perfectly" there could be some damage done over-time to your clutch. I have heard of alot of people doing the "clutchless" shifting.
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« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2009, 11:34:08 AM » |
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I personally use the clutch for every up-shift and down-shift, but as long as you get your rpms in the right range you don't NEED the clutch to shift. It won't cause drastic harm to the clutch if thats what you're asking, it might cause more wear on the plate in the long term, especially if you don't get the rpm range right, but I'm not 100% sure about that
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« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2009, 11:49:56 AM » |
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I'm interested to see what people have to say. With a sequential shifter, there's no way to rev-match like you could do in a car, so I can't imagine there's a way to "do it right."
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« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2009, 11:50:18 AM » |
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Yeah, you wont cause harm to the clutch doing that, and if done properly it really doesn't hurt too much else. However, I have seen a few folks bend the shifting forks pretty easy on these bikes with careless shifting.
My recommendation: if you want the bike to last, use the clutch. If you don't care, don't use the clutch.
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« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2009, 11:51:58 AM » |
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What we used to do when I raced motocross is "feather" the clutch, when speed shifting...like on the holeshot. You basically would pull the clutch in just slightly as you shifted, without letting off on the throttle.
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« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2009, 12:55:48 PM » |
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Adjust the throttle setting to match the transmission speed and it'll shift easily.
That said, rebuilding a clutch is a LOT cheaper and a way seriously less major surgery than replacing eaten up gears deep in the crankcase. Let the clutch sacrifice itself for the gears. It's really not all that much trouble to pull a lever a couple inches when shifting.
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« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2009, 05:30:24 PM » |
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Yes, it's just easier. Every time you brake or shift, the clutch gets used.
Also, traffic bites and half the time I need to brake right after upshifting anyway. My shifting is situational and anticipatory, so it can occur pretty much anywhere on the rev band, not just at one magic spot.
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« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2009, 07:46:10 PM » |
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I don't use the clutch much when Im driving a tractor-trailer but I almost always us it on the motorcycle.  |
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« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2009, 07:55:49 PM » |
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I use the clutch every shift.
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« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2009, 10:35:09 PM » |
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Pretty much use the clutch every shift as well
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« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2009, 06:14:39 PM » |
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I recommend using the clutch at each shift. I have limited experience, but when I was riding a '84 CM 250, which I bought new in 1986, I didn't use the clutch after starting in 1st gear. After 9 years and about 12K miles I broke something in the tranny and it wouldn't engage in any gear. So I gave it away to a charity auction where it brought $35. I have no idea if the no shift practice had anything to do with it, or not. I did have trouble breaking the clutch cable on the small bikes, that is why I started no clutch shifting. I rode my bikes year around in Wisconsin from 1976 to about 1997, where there is salt on the streets in winter. A new chain each year was common. I am sure exposure to bad weather contributed to the clutch cable failure, also.
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