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« on: June 14, 2009, 08:15:14 PM »

The Hawk and I just ate this one for lunch a couple hrs. ago.
                   Yea, it was only a 600......just a snack today.


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« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2009, 08:23:31 PM »

BURP  giggle
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« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2009, 09:15:51 PM »

You should be ashamed of yourself!! Hap1 Hap1
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« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2009, 04:40:29 AM »

When did fishmeister get this hilarious new avatar? 
Anyhow, did you get the t-shirt?
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« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2009, 01:33:09 PM »

fishmeister, refresh my memory...is your bike stock?
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« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2009, 03:11:47 PM »

my other friend (honda tech), . Either one of the two can hold a candle to the '86. I mean large noticeable difference.

Did you mean to say "neither"? It kind of changes the meaning...
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« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2009, 07:10:31 PM »

The squid rider is supposed to represent an inexperienced sqiiddly rider.....I must have some other classification.
Yes, you would be the squidbuster
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« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2009, 05:23:03 AM »

A rare moment of poetic justice I haven't had in a while is when some jackass zooms past you on a straight and slows WAY down for the curve while you sail around them.  
I just imagine they really hate that.  On their 900cc+ sport bike.
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« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2009, 07:43:11 AM »

Poetic justice: I was talking with some of the "riders" from another section.  They were discussing their last trip to the Dragon's Tail.  These guys all ride bigger sport bike, one 750 that I know of, the rest are 1000's.  They were talking about how great the ride was how how well they were doing when they got a severe shock.  Seems they got passed by a Goldwing.  It wasn't bad enough that they got passed, but he did it on a hairpin corner and had the gall to wave as he went by.

I've gone to the Dragon a couple times with my brother; he handles his 95 1500 'Wing like a sport bike.  He leans so far he's already ripped off one set of air horns and scrapes the plastic on the lower sides.
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« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2009, 07:21:04 AM »

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Back in my younger years, and my 88 1500 GW was new I had more fun doing that to the sporties, they just couldn't believe when my GW would out perform them and leave them in my dust, where did he go?
I don't ride like that any more, but it was fun back then.
It would still be fun now but I don't do that any more.

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« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2009, 10:57:45 PM »

The Hawk and I just ate this one for lunch a couple hrs. ago.
                   Yea, it was only a 600......just a snack today.




I'm kinda surprised you were able to get past a CBR.  Is your Nighthawk hotted up?
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« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2009, 09:18:06 AM »

Hey I'am with isleofmanfan what did you do to your bike,that makes it so fast  scratcher There is no way I would have a chance against something like that(cbr)even if it was a 600. Very interested! sounds like I have a winter project now.
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« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2009, 09:42:58 AM »

Hey I'am with isleofmanfan what did you do to your bike,that makes it so fast  scratcher There is no way I would have a chance against something like that(cbr)even if it was a 600. Very interested! sounds like I have a winter project now.

A quick run on the street is by no means a representation of a bike's true speed or capability. I've beat a C6 Corvette in my car, but it was a quick run and I'm betting it caught him in the worst part of his powerband and me at my best, so I'd never claim that as a "kill." But the time I beat a Mustang GT on the drag strip with a set finish line, starting point, and lights, I do.

Unorganized start/finish points, varying rider skill, and varying rider intentions all play into the results of a "race." I have a friend that has a Fox-body Mustang GT. One time he and a friend were driving around when they came upon a hopped-up Geo Metro driven by a guy and what appeared to be his girlfriend; she was pointing at the Mustang and egging the Geo's driver on. As they pulled away from the stoplight, the Geo was giving all it had and miraculously staying ahead of the Mustang. My friend's passenger immediately knew my friend was dogging it and couldn't understand why. My friend replied, "I know my car could easily beat him, there's no contest there. But I just got that guy laid."

I guess what I'm trying to say is that when you participate in a spontaneous "race" where intentions and rules aren't agreed upon between parties, it's foolish to actually make any conclusions about it.
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« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2009, 09:49:12 AM »

I tell ya...my buddy has a 2000 CBR600. Its his first bike and he is just learning on it. But once he's ready, I'll see how my 750s goes up against it.
It should be close...I would say the 600 would win with the right driver. It only weighs 375 lbs and has a claimed 109 HP.
While the 700s has a claimed 80 HP (mine might be a tad more since mine is a 750 and is moded) and the 700s weighs 469 lbs.

Edit: I just read that the 750 Nighthawk S (the one sold outside the US) has a claimed 91 HP.
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« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2009, 10:29:46 AM »

It should be close...I would say the 600 would win with the right driver. It only weighs 375 lbs and has a claimed 109 HP.
While the 700s has a claimed 80 HP (mine might be a tad more since mine is a 750 and is moded) and the 700s weighs 469 lbs.

Actually, it SHOULDN'T be close. Most 600 class sport bikes run a quarter mile in the mid-10s. An early 700cc Nighthawk in perfect condition will run a 12 flat. The '91 and up 750cc Nighthawks run 13s.

Power-to-weight ratios:
CBR: 3.44 lb/hp
Nighthawk (based on your numbers): 5.15

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« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2009, 10:47:39 AM »

Poetic justice:

I wonder if that's Yellow Wolf. At one point Killboy said no matter what you're riding or how much HP and traction you have, if a big yellow gold wing comes sailing up behind you, just move over, let him pass and don't try to keep up.
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« Reply #16 on: August 20, 2009, 11:49:28 AM »

Anybody have an idea of what an 82 650 NH will run in the quarter?
I know the Nighthawk is a cruiser an has no business racing sport bikes.
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« Reply #17 on: August 20, 2009, 12:01:46 PM »

Anybody have an idea of what an 82 650 NH will run in the quarter?
I know the Nighthawk is a cruiser an has no business racing sport bikes.

I'd bet in perfect conditions with a perfect driver you'd manage a 13 flat or so. The '82 still had the SOHC engine (I believe) so it was only putting out around 60hp.
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« Reply #18 on: August 20, 2009, 12:14:40 PM »

I'd bet in perfect conditions with a perfect driver you'd manage a 13 flat or so. The '82 still had the SOHC engine (I believe) so it was only putting out around 60hp.

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I wonder if that's Yellow Wolf. At one point Killboy said no matter what you're riding or how much HP and traction you have, if a big yellow gold wing comes sailing up behind you, just move over, let him pass and don't try to keep up.


I watch his videos in awe.

I went one a group ride a couple of years ago with a pretty diverse group - a harley, my hawk, a triumph, a CBR, several BMW's, and a guy called "Bear" on a Goldwing.  He tossed that thing about with ease & kept up pretty darn well with the sport-boys in the twisties. 
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« Reply #20 on: August 20, 2009, 03:05:38 PM »

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He tossed that thing about with ease & kept up pretty darn well with the sport-boys in the twisties.

In the twisties, the thing on top of the seat is far more important than the thing under the gas tank.
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He tossed that thing about with ease & kept up pretty darn well with the sport-boys in the twisties.

In the twisties, the thing on top of the seat is far more important than the thing under the gas tank.




Pffttt... the thing below the tank is sometimes smarter than the thing on the seat...  laugh Hap1 giggle
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« Reply #22 on: August 20, 2009, 04:54:33 PM »

Pffttt... the thing below the tank is sometimes smarter than the thing on the seat...  laugh Hap1 giggle

And therein lies the problem.
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« Reply #23 on: August 20, 2009, 05:15:26 PM »

pfffft...The "inanimate carbon rod" is the smartest thing out there!

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« Reply #24 on: August 20, 2009, 06:15:22 PM »

When it comes down to it its ALL the rider. Especially on the street.  Most people who ride bikes know how to rip through the gears they know nothing of how to get into a turn hitting the right apex or rolling throttle at the exact time right before the apex so they come out of the turn ripping.

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