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« Reply #50 on: July 26, 2009, 10:14:55 PM » |
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I'm surprised to see nobody has mentioned a bar snake, which is a jointed, plastic coated lead "snake" that you feed inside the bars. I've seen many home-made versions of these as well; basically anything to dampen the harmonic oscillations of the bars which, in effect, cause temporary carpal tunnel fatigue. Lazzy doesn't buzz too bad, B.Rex is buzz-free in the cruise range, but an hour on the Seca used to cause completely numb, tingly wrists after a hour or so. My brother gave me a used bar snake to try, which cut the numbness and tingles by 90%!
A neat home-made version of this can be constructed by filling fuel hose just slightly smaller than the bar ID with sand or, better yet....lead shot. Seal both ends with silicone RTV, let dry, then lube it up with silicone spray, silicone grease (better) or white lithium grease (i.e. Lubriplate) and slide inside the bars. Try it. It works for me!
Interesting solution. Wouldn't it be better to just balance/true the front tire or tighten the triple T nut to the proper setting? |
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« Reply #51 on: July 26, 2009, 10:20:48 PM » |
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Kirk is snake charming. BTW Bee....My Honda guy was pretty interested when I introduced him to the plate on tubes alignment technique. Old school teaching....
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« Reply #52 on: July 26, 2009, 10:26:25 PM » |
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Kirk is snake charming.
lol...Just like a Star Trek episode. My throttle hand gets the tingles when I see a good looking female. |
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« Reply #53 on: July 26, 2009, 10:31:18 PM » |
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Now you're talking straight Max, I usually start tingling about 11K deciding how little I should drop it between shifts.
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« Reply #54 on: July 26, 2009, 11:26:34 PM » |
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Kirk is snake charming. I've done some of that snake charming stuff on machines before..and most of the time got bit for my efforts. BTW Bee....My Honda guy was pretty interested when I introduced him to the plate on tubes alignment technique. Old school teaching.... Excellent. Maybe we're brainwashing another technician into becoming a potential mechanic like they should have been trained in the first place.  Old school? Dunno about that. The glass plate method is the only sensible easy way to get two independent bars of any kind exactly parallel. |
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« Reply #55 on: July 26, 2009, 11:33:40 PM » |
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Well Bee, don't assume Honda Andy is green.......he's one of the best, and I've seen many.
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« Reply #56 on: July 27, 2009, 06:49:35 AM » |
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I agree to get all the mechanical aspects of the bike taken care of first, but no one to my knowledge has mentioned Bar-End Weights. Though usually designed for the paint shakers, rumor has it that they do a decent job and are pretty inexpensive to install.
Also, has anyone installed hand deflectors like KTM and many dual sport bikes have. I love riding down the highway with them on all the demos I've tried and am going to put a set on me' hawk. Looking for recommendations.
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« Reply #57 on: July 27, 2009, 08:49:23 AM » |
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Scott,
I've seen some pretty innovative homemade hand deflectors either here or over on ADV Rider. Might drop a few search terms and see what shows.
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« Reply #58 on: July 27, 2009, 09:06:33 AM » |
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I installed a set of Vibranators in my DR's bars. They have made a world of difference. http://www.vibranator.com/ |
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« Reply #59 on: July 27, 2009, 10:02:15 PM » |
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Kirk is snake charming. BTW Bee....My Honda guy was pretty interested when I introduced him to the plate on tubes alignment technique. Old school teaching....
At least I'm charming! That's a good thing, right? I tried using garter snakes but they wouldn't cooperate. Seemed very pissy and irritable about the whole concept.  |
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« Reply #60 on: July 27, 2009, 10:05:11 PM » |
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I'm surprised to see nobody has mentioned a bar snake, which is a jointed, plastic coated lead "snake" that you feed inside the bars. I've seen many home-made versions of these as well; basically anything to dampen the harmonic oscillations of the bars which, in effect, cause temporary carpal tunnel fatigue. Lazzy doesn't buzz too bad, B.Rex is buzz-free in the cruise range, but an hour on the Seca used to cause completely numb, tingly wrists after a hour or so. My brother gave me a used bar snake to try, which cut the numbness and tingles by 90%!
A neat home-made version of this can be constructed by filling fuel hose just slightly smaller than the bar ID with sand or, better yet....lead shot. Seal both ends with silicone RTV, let dry, then lube it up with silicone spray, silicone grease (better) or white lithium grease (i.e. Lubriplate) and slide inside the bars. Try it. It works for me!
Interesting solution. Wouldn't it be better to just balance/true the front tire or tighten the triple T nut to the proper setting? It would......if that was the cause of the buzzing. In the case of my Seca it wasn't. All that was previously checked, and the condition has existed since my brother first purchased the bike, a year old. |
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« Reply #61 on: July 28, 2009, 07:52:06 AM » |
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It would......if that was the cause of the buzzing. In the case of my Seca it wasn't. All that was previously checked, and the condition has existed since my brother first purchased the bike, a year old. Here's something to consider: The tire being on the wheel properly. If you spin the wheel, the tire tread should run straight, not wobbling a little similar to how an out of true rim does. My front tire is just a little off at one point and at certain speeds, it gives instant head shakes that increase in amplitude. When I put the new tire on, I'm going to make absolutely certain the tire is straight to get rid of that problem. Old rubber will do similar things. |
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« Reply #62 on: July 28, 2009, 08:25:19 AM » |
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I agree to get all the mechanical aspects of the bike taken care of first, but no one to my knowledge has mentioned Bar-End Weights. Though usually designed for the paint shakers, rumor has it that they do a decent job and are pretty inexpensive to install.
Also, has anyone installed hand deflectors like KTM and many dual sport bikes have. I love riding down the highway with them on all the demos I've tried and am going to put a set on me' hawk. Looking for recommendations.
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Yes. These things are great. Keeps the wind and wet off your hands. Plus the metal bar that holds the deflectors doubles as hand protection if you crash or hit a mirror or something. It will also save the levers so if you do dump the bike at least it will still be drivable. During the summer you can remove the deflectors and still have the protection of the bar.  Got them here http://store.cycraracing.com/prrapawiumo.html |
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