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Offline RobbieAG

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Re: Sports Touring Bike?
« Reply #25 on: August 08, 2016, 08:19:46 PM »
" My favorite ST on a budget is Honda ST1100 " I picked one up a few months ago for $2000, now I have the mighty ST 1300 and a 1999 ST 1100

The ST1100 is a great budget sport tourer, but they generally don't sell that low unless they have high miles or need work. 2k is an outstanding deal! More commonly they're in the 3-4k range.
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Re: Sports Touring Bike?
« Reply #26 on: August 08, 2016, 08:26:57 PM »
" My favorite ST on a budget is Honda ST1100 " I picked one up a few months ago for $2000, now I have the mighty ST 1300 and a 1999 ST 1100
Welcome friend
I am seriously thinking of buying ST1100.Found in my woods very cheap 2k with 16k miles.Really nice.MY only reservation is some complained that its too cramped for folks who are tall like me little over 6feet but my legs are longer...
What is your experience
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Re: Sports Touring Bike?
« Reply #27 on: August 09, 2016, 07:44:32 AM »
" My favorite ST on a budget is Honda ST1100 " I picked one up a few months ago for $2000, now I have the mighty ST 1300 and a 1999 ST 1100
Welcome friend
I am seriously thinking of buying ST1100.Found in my woods very cheap 2k with 16k miles.Really nice.MY only reservation is some complained that its too cramped for folks who are tall like me little over 6feet but my legs are longer...
What is your experience
Thank you

I can't speak for the ST1100, but I can tell you that the ST1300 was cramped for me.  I'm 6'4 and my shins were right against the fairing.  It was manageable, but every bump was felt.  I wanted to like it, but couldn't.

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Re: Sports Touring Bike?
« Reply #28 on: August 09, 2016, 11:35:29 AM »
MY only reservation is some complained that its too cramped for folks who are tall like me little over 6feet but my legs are longer...
What is your experience
I'm 5'11" with a 32" inseam, and it fits me fine. The best bet would be to go sit on one and see how it feels.
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Re: Sports Touring Bike?
« Reply #29 on: August 09, 2016, 02:42:45 PM »
" My favorite ST on a budget is Honda ST1100 " I picked one up a few months ago for $2000, now I have the mighty ST 1300 and a 1999 ST 1100

The ST1100 is a great budget sport tourer, but they generally don't sell that low unless they have high miles or need work. 2k is an outstanding deal! More commonly they're in the 3-4k range.
the ST 1100 fits me about the same as my ST 1300, I have no problem with cockpit room and I'm all of six feet. the only thing that needs replacing are fork seals but I'm going to put some progressive springs in at while things are apart then add a progressive shock next year just before riding season starts. if you are looking at an st 1100  all made before '96 only have a 28a alternator, '96 and newer have 40a alternators

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Re: Sports Touring Bike?
« Reply #30 on: August 09, 2016, 03:41:45 PM »
I've got a'95 ST1100 and it's an amazing Sport Touring bike - it's get get up and go, range, and capacity.  7.4 Gallon tank and I get 40mpg when I'm not on the throttle too much - so a 300 mile range when topped off.  I admit I mostly use it for commuting and fun drives, whatabike.  My brother-in-law's '91 CB750 could be used for touring, folks have used less, but it's no sport tourer.

I'm 6'1" and 230lbs, and the ST1100 roomier than my CX500 which had a standard seating position.  It's a tall bike but your feet are under you for the ability to help absorb big bumps.  Standing up on the pegs to stretch your legs is easy - can't do that on a cruiser. 

Another good bike to find which is a little more sport, little less tourer is the VFR800 or VFR750.   Looks long and hard for whatever you are interested.   I bought my  ST last August for $1000 just 15 miles from my house.  Yes it was a barn find and needed work, but I could hear it run enough to know the engine was good. I had been looking for a good 3 months when I stumbled across it.  Also - in October or so expect the prices to drop - you should find 'em on eBay lower priced too.

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Re: Sports Touring Bike?
« Reply #31 on: August 09, 2016, 07:54:36 PM »
I've got a'95 ST1100 and it's an amazing Sport Touring bike - it's get get up and go, range, and capacity.  7.4 Gallon tank and I get 40mpg when I'm not on the throttle too much - so a 300 mile range when topped off.  I admit I mostly use it for commuting and fun drives, whatabike.  My brother-in-law's '91 CB750 could be used for touring, folks have used less, but it's no sport tourer.

I'm 6'1" and 230lbs, and the ST1100 roomier than my CX500 which had a standard seating position.  It's a tall bike but your feet are under you for the ability to help absorb big bumps.  Standing up on the pegs to stretch your legs is easy - can't do that on a cruiser. 

Another good bike to find which is a little more sport, little less tourer is the VFR800 or VFR750.   Looks long and hard for whatever you are interested.   I bought my  ST last August for $1000 just 15 miles from my house.  Yes it was a barn find and needed work, but I could hear it run enough to know the engine was good. I had been looking for a good 3 months when I stumbled across it.  Also - in October or so expect the prices to drop - you should find 'em on eBay lower priced too.
Thanks for valuable post and others here as well.I had 1998 VFR800 which I loved but only thing I disliked was engine being gear driven generated lot of heat and temp will shoot up and you just prayed your fan didn't malfunction in traffic.
So I was in fear of traffic all the time and this had unfortunate effect of frying stater wires which caused regulator rectifier burn as well.This is known issue with all VFR before 2002.Very weak thin stator wires and poorly designed RR. In fact this issue is so common that there is after market out there selling kits to fix it.
Anyway perhaps I got off track but ST1100 appeals to me because its reliable and solidly built.
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« Reply #32 on: April 03, 2017, 09:52:58 PM »
My Sales Manager rolls in a maroon Honda ST1300, with his wife on the back and swears by it. In fact, he's planning on hitting The Tail of The Dragon with it sometime, soon too, which is rad.

Anyways...

Was just going back through this "Sports Touring Bike?" topic and realized that unfortunately the link I'd provided (back in "Reply #19") has apparently since broken, so going to try re-post it a couple of different ways, here:

Option 1, if the direct link will work:

1.  http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/Honda/honda_cb750SC%2092.htm

Option 2, if Option 1 fails and you've got both the patience and determination:

2.  http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za
A.  Scroll down the left side, and click: "Honda"
B.  Scroll down their list of specific Honda models, skipping to page two.
C.  Click on "CB 750 Nighthawk" "1991-95".

Enjoy!

Note: I'd hoped to simply quote some of their article here, but they appear to have protected the heck out of it, lol.
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Re: Sports Touring Bike?
« Reply #33 on: April 04, 2017, 05:00:06 AM »
I guess it's just a matter of terminology.  I recall from one article about the 91 CB750, that the "working" designation was NAS for New American Standard.  I'd call it a UJM, which to me means it's a blank canvas you can adjust to your uses.  I loved mine, but as I get older, I need carrying capacity and wind protection.  While on this board alone, I've seen it turned into a bobber, "chopper", adventure bike, even an ATC (if you remember those).  So is it a sport tourer?  Sure, if that's the way you've set it up.

I was looking hard for an ST1100, but found a 1300A for such a great deal, I couldn't pass it up.  But I'd trade it for an 1100A easily.

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Re: Sports Touring Bike?
« Reply #34 on: April 04, 2017, 02:33:55 PM »
I looked at the ST1300 as a possible replacement,but it was too tall for me and the kicker for me was the bags don't hold anything near what my 36 litre Givi's hold.
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Re: Sports Touring Bike?
« Reply #35 on: April 04, 2017, 09:02:22 PM »
@n5tbu, those are both great looking NH's with sweet ST setups. I'm looking into various hard case/pannier options now.

Who makes your's and how are they mounted?

I contacted Givi, etc., and it seems many NH mounts have been discontinued...and are therefore challenging to find nowadays, apparently.

(In the meantime, I've scored  a set of used Kawasaki throw over soft cases/saddle bags, for $20).


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They are GIVI cases and a GIVI wingrack....I made my own mounts using the turn signal holes with 3 spacers and an all thread rod.
Then another brace to the rear muffler bolts.

Nice! I've since added a Givi Wingrack 2 (via Givi Y127), and a pair of Givi E21's, for now. Any recollection what model your Givi cases are? They look sizable. So, do you rock two NH's with six Givi cases or are you swapping the same three Givi's from bike to bike, depending on what color you're feeling that day? Again, BOTH NH's look GREAT, and are both among some of the most ST styled NH's I've seen to date.


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Re: Sports Touring Bike?
« Reply #36 on: April 05, 2017, 05:52:36 AM »
I started out with three E36 cases,then I got an E42 for the top case.
I share those with 3 bikes.
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« Reply #37 on: April 05, 2017, 07:33:51 AM »
Cool, thanks! The Givi E36 and Givi E42 weren't even on my radar...

Good to know. I've been keeping an eye out for the Givi E360 or Givi E460 or Givi V46; All Monokeys.

Mainly look'n for a steal on a Givi Top Case for now; preferably one I can place my laptop in, when commuting...but would be rad to also use for helmet, riding gear and whatnot too...when on shorter trips and not loaded up for the real deal.
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Re: Sports Touring Bike?
« Reply #38 on: April 08, 2017, 03:55:49 PM »
I looked at the ST1300 as a possible replacement,but it was too tall for me and the kicker for me was the bags don't hold anything near what my 36 litre Givi's hold.
you are right in that the bags on the mighty ST 1300 don't hold much. mine has the Hondaline trunk which doesn't hold much either so I picked up a wolfman expedition small dry bag, I keep all my clothes in it, maps and gloves in the trunk, and shoes and bike cover in the saddlebags. running 70- 90mph I've done 285 mile on about 3/4 of a tank. I sold the ST 1100 last September so I could start my search for a GSA

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« Reply #39 on: April 24, 2017, 05:24:36 PM »
Good to know about the ST1100's & ST1300's apparent storage limitations, in case I ever go that route...

In the meantime, I Googled "Nighthawk Sports Tourer" and came across this:



Source: http://advrider.com/index.php?threads/middleweight-tourer-suggestions.1099871/page-3


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Re: Sports Touring Bike?
« Reply #40 on: April 25, 2017, 05:05:16 AM »
At 6', I never felt the ST100 was cramped.  My brother is 6'4", and he liked it as well.  It's one of the few bikes I've always felt comfortable on in stock trim  The ST1300 OTOH, needed some adjustments before fitting well - bar risers/peg lowers, custom seat.  The balance felt better on the 11 as well with the gas tank under the seat.  With the majority of the gas tank over the engine on the 13, it's a little top heavy.  That being said, I do love the fuel injection and instant power of the 13.  For my riding style/ability, handling is a wash.  I don't think I could ever exceed what either is capable of.

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Re: Sports Touring Bike?
« Reply #41 on: April 25, 2017, 07:33:36 AM »
 FJR is  one of the best Sport Touring Bikes made.   Rock solid and plenty of HP and storage. 

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Re: Sports Touring Bike?
« Reply #42 on: April 25, 2017, 08:39:14 AM »
I looked at the ST1300 as a possible replacement,but it was too tall for me and the kicker for me was the bags don't hold anything near what my 36 litre Givi's hold.

The hard bags on both the 1100 and 1300 are large enough to hold a XL full face helmet which is pretty typical as far as OEM hard bags go. I've never considered it a problem, though they won't hold as much as the Givi 36 bags. They're probably around 30 litres each. I have a Givi Maxia top box that will hold two full face helmets, so storage is not a problem. If I need more, I have a large dry bag that I put on the back seat (when camping etc.).
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Re: Sports Touring Bike?
« Reply #43 on: April 26, 2017, 05:11:13 AM »
No doubt, the shape of the ST13's bags makes it harder to pack, but they're about the same size as the ST11 bags.  The 13's bags are better mounted too.Still, a big trunk is a bonus, what size Maxia did you get?  I like the looks of it, but haven't bought one yet.

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Re: Sports Touring Bike?
« Reply #44 on: April 26, 2017, 09:24:15 AM »
No doubt, the shape of the ST13's bags makes it harder to pack, but they're about the same size as the ST11 bags.  The 13's bags are better mounted too.Still, a big trunk is a bonus, what size Maxia did you get?  I like the looks of it, but haven't bought one yet.

I actually find the 1300 bags are somewhat easier to pack - I guess it's the shape inside.

I have the Maxia 52 which I think is the largest they make. It came with the 1100 and I added a Givi rack to the 1300 so I can use it on both bikes.
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Re: Sports Touring Bike?
« Reply #45 on: April 26, 2017, 07:51:20 PM »
I have to admit, I saw a blacked out ST1100 for sale locally the other day, and thought it would be rad for my wife and I to roll on together. Maybe someday. In the meantime, my NH is slowly but surely trending the way of the 'light' Sports Tourer. ;)
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Re: Sports Touring Bike?
« Reply #46 on: April 27, 2017, 04:57:22 PM »
to make my ST 1300 more comfortable for me I've added handlebar risers and highway blades from motorcycle larry.  it came with a sargent seat on the bike and the dealer gave me the stock seat. the seat on the ST 1300 is adjustable so make sure it is set for you before you say its too tall

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« Reply #47 on: April 27, 2017, 09:12:27 PM »
to make my ST 1300 more comfortable for me I've added handlebar risers and highway blades from motorcycle larry.  it came with a sargent seat on the bike and the dealer gave me the stock seat. the seat on the ST 1300 is adjustable so make sure it is set for you before you say its too tall

Nice. I recall Sonnystiles doing that to his former NH at some point, too.


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Re: Sports Touring Bike?
« Reply #48 on: April 28, 2017, 05:07:35 AM »
I've got the Heli-bar risers on mine, and just traded the custom seat that came with it for a Sargent Seat.  I need some peg lowers, but I think I'm going with the GL1800 pegs instead.  Think I'll get a bigger screen for winter riding too, but that can wait for now.  Need tires next, thinking I'll got with Shinkos.  Maybe darkside later, but I'm not sure I want to do that to an ST.  Didn't mind it on a big cruiser like the Valk or the Voyager.

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Re: Sports Touring Bike?
« Reply #49 on: April 28, 2017, 04:18:39 PM »
I've got the Heli-bar risers on mine, and just traded the custom seat that came with it for a Sargent Seat.  I need some peg lowers, but I think I'm going with the GL1800 pegs instead.  Think I'll get a bigger screen for winter riding too, but that can wait for now.  Need tires next, thinking I'll got with Shinkos.  Maybe darkside later, but I'm not sure I want to do that to an ST.  Didn't mind it on a big cruiser like the Valk or the Voyager.
forgot all about the windshield, I went with a clearview small with a vent. it is about the same height as a stock windshield if I remember right but it is wider buy a couple of inches

 

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