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« on: August 20, 2009, 11:17:01 PM »

I responded to a Craigslist ad for a "Vintage Honda motorcycle" with an electrical problem and a title. The guy was moving and couldn't figure out the problem, so he was practically giving it away. I bought and paid for it sight unseen, and was blown away when I did see it.

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The gas tank is flawless:


Cleaned up a little:


I was told the bike ran great until this year, when all of a sudden "no power was getting from the battery to the engine" or something like that. I pulled out the battery, it was showing 5V. I threw it on the charger and went to work. Plugs were a little sooty but gapped correctly. Cold, I got ~150psi on all four cylinders.

I set the point gap, adjusted valve clearance, and changed the oil. I hit the head and valve cover with some degreaser and went to town with Simple Green on the rest of the bike. I pulled all of the electrical connectors, cleaned them out, and packed them all with dielectric grease.

I pulled off the gas tank and made sure the petcock flowed well. I drained all four carbs. I dumped 1/3 of a can of a Seafoam into the gas tank, and let a little run through the carbs. I pulled each of the fuses and checked resistances across each of them - all of them tested good, but the main fuse seemed a bit dodgy - I'd lose connection if I moved the multimeter leads.

I put all the fuses back and hooked up a spare car battery to the bike's battery leads, since the bike's battery hadn't charged yet. I turned the key and...nothing. I pulled out the multimeter again and found 12.65V between ground and the left side of the main fuse. I found 0V between ground and the right side of the main fuse. I pulled the battery off, replaced the fuse with a known good (but too long) one, and tried again. Suddenly my Neutral and Oil lights popped on, as did my running lights. Fantastic.

After about ten to fifteen seconds of cranking and a couple little pops, it started up, and it ran and idled okay, but chugged a little when I gave it throttle. Afterwards, I checked each pipe temperature by hand to see how hot it was. Four, three, and two were even, but for some reason number one was cold. Oh look, #1's plug wire is hanging loose. Plugged that back in, started it up, and voilĂ .



I have a modern fuse box that I bought for my CB550 cafe project that I might throw on this to make sure that part of it is reliable. My initial plan was to flip this for a tidy profit and buy myself a nice TV, but I kind of really want to keep it now. The forks look good, the chrome is perfect, the only rust is on the passenger pegs, the tires are both in great shape, I'm a fan of the 4-2 exhaust. It just needs a slimmer seat and some superbike bars and it would be perfect. Maybe I'll sell my Nighthawk...I guess we'll see.
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« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2009, 04:12:11 AM »

Nice find!!

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« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2009, 05:50:54 AM »

what year is it '77 or '78? honda went with smaller carbs on these and a set from a '76 or earlier do a lot to improve performance
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« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2009, 06:24:45 AM »

Very nice find thumb Its amazing what a little elbow grease can do huh? Great find and good job on getting it running again!!!
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« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2009, 07:27:04 AM »

Bike looks good. I've been there a few times.. get something as a project, but 1/2 way through you want to keep it instead. I'm amazed at the condition of the tank too.. you really lucked out there.
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« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2009, 08:41:31 AM »

Very nice.
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Do you think that tank was coated? It looks too good to be original.

Great compression too.
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« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2009, 09:56:57 AM »

If it was coated, would the bare metal be visible? The tank coating I've seen before is opaque, but I believe this one is bare metal.

The bike looks like it's been really well taken care of.
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« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2009, 09:58:01 AM »

Are those original mirrors and tail light? Sounds like you knew it could be a quick fix and snapped up a great find. Congrats  thumb
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« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2009, 12:54:03 PM »

I'd definitely keep it. thumb
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« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2009, 08:41:03 PM »

Laminar, I think you and I have the same disease. I used to fix up bikes like that
but I have gotten to a point now, I just like to ride to ride them and only do the
necessessary maintenance. It is a good way to stay out of trouble, working on your
bike in the garage. My former neighbor used to come over and help me fix the bikes
up. I do not know whether he liked to work on bikes or because my little refrigerator
in the garage always had adult beverages in it! Hap1

Not to threadjack here, but the current Motorcycle Classics magazine have a lot
regarding Honda CB's, I love that magazine.
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« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2009, 09:24:28 PM »

I hate you Laminar!!!!  Nice find though! Wish I could snap up a great deal like that on a Wing or Yamaha (I know bad word in these parts) XS1100.
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« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2009, 06:32:31 AM »

And this is why everyone should own a service manual: so you don't go selling off perfectly good bikes for want of a pitifully cheap fuse.  

For want of a nail the shoe was lost.
For want of a shoe the horse was lost.
For want of a horse the rider was lost.
For want of a rider the battle was lost.
For want of a battle the kingdom was lost.
And all for the want of a horseshoe nail.

Disclaimer: I only learned of the existence of main fuses through this site, but then I haven't lost any bikes to mechanical ailments either.
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« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2009, 02:25:25 PM »

I will say that the original fuse passed a visual inspection and the multimeter thought it was okay, just kind of iffy.

I went ahead and stole the fuse box I was going to use on my CB550 Cafe and rigged it up on this bike:



In hindsight, those 90 degree female knife connectors I originally bought but returned would have been perfect, but this solution works great, I don't have to worry about stupid glass fuses, and everything's protected.

I took it for a ride last night and again this afternoon. It likes to stumble a bit at low RPMs but using the choke a little bit helps - the only problem is that turning the choke on brings the idle revs to around 3000rpm, so in first gear the bike doesn't want to stop.
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« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2009, 03:16:13 PM »

I hate you Laminar!!!!  Nice find though! Wish I could snap up a great deal like that on a Wing or Yamaha (I know bad word in these parts) XS1100.
Actually my buddies dad just picked up an 84 goldwing for $45, the guy selling it just wanted enough to cover his cost of listing it in the local paper. Took a little bit of work on the carbs, now its running great
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« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2009, 03:19:58 PM »

I hate you Laminar!!!!  Nice find though! Wish I could snap up a great deal like that on a Wing or Yamaha (I know bad word in these parts) XS1100.
Actually my buddies dad just picked up an 84 goldwing for $45, the guy selling it just wanted enough to cover his cost of listing it in the local paper. Took a little bit of work on the carbs, now its running great

Does he want to trade?  naughty
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« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2009, 06:13:24 PM »

A Goldwing in ANY condition would be way worth $45. I just picked up a wing for $800 and THAT was a steal!
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« Reply #16 on: August 26, 2009, 08:52:50 AM »

Great find man, I love seeing these old bikes on the road.
I'm young but I can appreciate things that existed long before I was ever thought of.
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