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Offline n8vyc

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Bad Car Driver!!
« on: July 14, 2017, 02:27:51 PM »
Today I had someone inches from my back tire pass me on the right and speed away!!  I caught her at the light and asked her what her problem was but she ignored me and broke about 10 laws to get away.  I turned left and got her license number.  But what is a person supposed to do with drivers willing to hit you.  I wanted to kick her mirror off the car but just came home instead.   Any suggestions on how to handle these idiots!!


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Re: Bad Car Driver!!
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2017, 04:59:16 PM »
That woman was probably upset with someone and having a texting/talking bout on her phone.  Thank God she did not run over you.  All we can do is be aware of every one around us and constantly be ready to evade the idiots.  You were wise to just let it go and not kick off her mirror.   
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Re: Bad Car Driver!!
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2017, 09:01:08 PM »
A wise man once taught me an acronym to deal with these situations:  FIDO (F**k It, Drive On).


Given the situation you've described, there's really nothing you can do. So the best course of action is to take a deep breath and ride safely away.


Call in what we in the business know as an 'unsafe driver'? Even if you could follow her and get a cop to the scene, it's her word against yours.


Chase her down and kick off a mirror or put a dent in the quarter panel? That makes you the bad guy.


We all deal with it, and it can be aggravating and downright scary. Just another part of motorcycling.
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Re: Bad Car Driver!!
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2017, 04:50:04 AM »
I want some of these decals:


Motorcyclist offers apology and restitution to members of DUMB

An apology is in order, so, please, forgive me. It was not until this morning on my ride to work that I fully understood I was in error.
Yes, I've noticed that there are many very busy and important people on the roads. You all are hard to miss with the cell phones, laptops, breakfast bars, coffee, cigarettes and all, but until now, I didn't realize I was causing so much trouble for you busy, multitasking drivers.

I figured it out this morning, thanks to the nice lady working on the laptop who needed the lane I was in.

First, ma'am, let me say that when I honked at you from the shoulder, I didn't mean to startle you.  My intent was just to give you a little beep to let you know the lane was all yours. But I was braking so hard, I couldn't lift my thumb off the horn button.  My bad.

I surely didn't mean to cause you to nearly hit the guy talking on the cell phone. You know, he was smoking and talking as he moved his SUV right into the space you had just left.

Anyway, the good news is, that's when I realized all of you multitasking drivers must be texting each other about intended lane changes and running traffic lights and stop signs and such.  I'm sorry - I'm still using old-fashioned blinkers.  I didn't realize you needed some time to e-notify that guy that you needed the lane back.  I really messed it up for both of you!
I can only say that the guard rail was a little distracting, and I was only thinking about myself.

I'll try harder next time.

Like I said, I didn't know that was how you multitasking drivers were communicating.  It must have been in an e-mail, but my laptop fell off my tank and I haven't replaced it.

However, I have a solution.

I know many of you are so busy and important that you have no choice - you have to eat, work, talk, read and do lots of other really important things as you drive.

Those of us who use the road only for traveling would be happy to stay out of your way; we just need to know you're coming.  A little visual clue would help - I was thinking of a bumper sticker.  That way, everyone could identify you as Drivers Utilizing Multiple Behaviors.  Of course, that's a little long, so we'd cut it down to an acronym - DUMB.

If you'd place stickers on the front, back and maybe the sides of your car, the rest of us would know not to interfere with you on the road.
I think it's such a good idea, I'll pay for the bumper stickers and even put them on for you.  Deal?

Again, I'm sorry I got in your way.  I'll try harder to see you coming from now on.

I promise!

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Re: Bad Car Driver!!
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2017, 02:39:38 PM »
Well, of course FIDO works, but it lacks the satisfaction of a dish, best served cold.
The best "course" I've ever heard of is the solution delivered by Chris, a good friend of mine.
Not only did the "Road Bozo" tailgate his bike, but he made several attempts at bumping him off the road, which required Chris to take evasive action.
Chris slowed down and let Mr. Bozo run on ahead, but he followed him discretely.
The Bozo likely had forgotten what a frikin' sphincter he had been and drove on home.
Chris noted the location.
MUCH later on that night, he returned, and decided that Bozo's car needed a good washing, so he put Bozo's garden hose in the cracked open window of the passenger side of the car and turned the hose valve on full.
This particular form of reprisal lacks the immediate feedback of more aggressive vandalism, but provides one's imagination with a stunning image of hundreds of gallons of fresh, pure water knocking the crap out of a guy who deserves worse when he prepared his foray the next morning.
Post script:
Don't get mad - Get even.
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Re: Bad Car Driver!!
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2017, 06:15:13 AM »
Well, of course FIDO works, but it lacks the satisfaction of a dish, best served cold.
The best "course" I've ever heard of is the solution delivered by Chris, a good friend of mine.
Not only did the "Road Bozo" tailgate his bike, but he made several attempts at bumping him off the road, which required Chris to take evasive action.
Chris slowed down and let Mr. Bozo run on ahead, but he followed him discretely.
The Bozo likely had forgotten what a frikin' sphincter he had been and drove on home.
Chris noted the location.
MUCH later on that night, he returned, and decided that Bozo's car needed a good washing, so he put Bozo's garden hose in the cracked open window of the passenger side of the car and turned the hose valve on full.
This particular form of reprisal lacks the immediate feedback of more aggressive vandalism, but provides one's imagination with a stunning image of hundreds of gallons of fresh, pure water knocking the crap out of a guy who deserves worse when he prepared his foray the next morning.
Post script:
Don't get mad - Get even.

Wow, that is incredibly stupid advice.  If your story is true, your friend Chris is a despicable human being not worthy of this earth.

FIDO is the only course of action.  Get away from that vehicle however you have to and try to learn from the situation. 

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Re: Bad Car Driver!!
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2017, 08:25:38 AM »
Actually Chris was a great guy, just one you'd better not mess with.
So water damage to a car is grounds for terminating his life?  (not worthy of this Earth)
Sounds JUST a bit hypocritical.

When someone repeatedly tries to KILL you, that doesn't matter, and you should just let it go?
Sadly sometimes there IS nothing you can do about it.

Sometimes the Bozo get's instant Karma - Like the CA video when the driver tried to smash a bike into a concrete median and totaled out his own car (and others) instead. 
With the the driver's video who was behind  (it's on this site somewhere) the guy will hopefully be convicted of attempted homicide.

Sometimes someone like Chris fights back. 
I'm pretty sure the guy gave up on running bikes off the road - He had to until his car dried out.
The hose option would seldom, if ever, be applicable, and also illegal, I admit.

To me it was a good story, and one I think about when some idiot does something REALLY stupid to endanger my life.
In Chris's case, it wasn't something stupid.
It was someone intentionally trying make him wreck, repeatedly - and that is the person who is "not worthy of this Earth" IMHO, Not Chris.

If you don't like that opinion, go FIDO yourself, because I don't need your lecture.



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Re: Bad Car Driver!!
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2017, 09:33:40 AM »
I never said the truck driver was innocent.   Chris's actions resulted in one of two outcomes. 

1) The truck driver notices his truck filled with water, but has no idea who did it.  It accomplishes nothing. 

or

2) The truck driver connects the dots, which only reinforces his negative opinion of motorcycles.  That just leads to more incidents of road rage against us.

As for the incident in California, that rider picked a fight he could not and should not win.  It's a amazing and a shame that he got away.  The only innocent person involved was the lady driving the SUV that flipped over.

Revenge is human nature.  I understand why Chris would want to do such a thing, but it didn't do the rest of us any favors.
 The same is true for the rider that kicked that car in California.  "An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind."

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Re: Bad Car Driver!!
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2017, 01:57:34 PM »
I never said the truck driver was innocent.   Chris's actions resulted in one of two outcomes. 

1) The truck driver notices his truck filled with water, but has no idea who did it.  It accomplishes nothing. 
or
2) The truck driver connects the dots, which only reinforces his negative opinion of motorcycles.  That just leads to more incidents of road rage against us.

As for the incident in California, that rider picked a fight he could not and should not win.  It's a amazing and a shame that he got away.  The only innocent person involved was the lady driving the SUV that flipped over.

Revenge is human nature.  I understand why Chris would want to do such a thing, but it didn't do the rest of us any favors.
 The same is true for the rider that kicked that car in California.  "An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind."

Okay, at this point the horse has been nearly been beaten to death, but in case it's just sleeping....

First - It was a car, not a truck.
You should never mess with a truck unless you have a firearm handy. 
There is too great of a weight differential between the vehicles that can only be overcome with large pieces of high velocity dense metal.
(Before you start going ape crap over that comment - take a chill pill.  It's a joke.)

Second - Your stated opinion of outcome #1 (It accomplishes nothing) is incorrect.
It accomplished a lot for Chris.  It did a lot for me too, and sometimes I think - Wow - What a Bozo! - and imagine how well they could drive with scuba gear on.
It's a great stress reliever - Like when you imagine everyone in that huge crowd in front of you are only wearing underwear....
I don't care who you are - That's FUNNY. (Thank you Larry - The Cable Guy)

Third - Anyone who is willing to try to kill somebody on a bike is likely not going to become "nice" because someone gave him a pass, which leads to...
..of the two noted options you pointed out with potential outcomes from your perspective, you have ignored a significantly possible third.
To wit:
The guy realizes he was seriously messing (attempted murder is generally kinda serious) with someone who retaliated, and the chicken crap bully won't ever do it again.
The point is that the "if you just be nice, they will leave you alone" school of thought doesn't always work out for the best.
Sometimes bullies (or bat-crap crazy a-holes) NEED to be confronted or they just might be successful killing someone else slightly more meek - like you.

Ask the people in the World Trade Center, or the folks who survived the San Berdo luncheon.
How did the be nice to the Muzzies work out for them?

But I digress...

As far as the road rage video event, neither one of us knows what was going on. 
I doubt the event started at the same time that the video did.  Or do you think the guy always records everything???

Your comment " that rider picked a fight he could not and should not win"... except that he did win.. Oops.

The driver who felt justified in killing or maiming a motorcycle rider for attempting to put a boot mark on his car must be using a defective moral compass.
Apparently minor acts of vandalism (or justified payback) deserve the death penalty in some realms.

Considering the magnitude of impact differences in behavior, I think it far more likely that the car driver was the primary perp in that event.
I also have to take issue with the "shame he (the biker) got away" - Wow - You think the guy deserved to die for kicking a car!!

You might want to rethink that position on a biker forum.
The biker didn't swerve into the median - The car driver did - and he deserves what he got - Regardless of what the rider did.
All the other downstream consequences are his fault - Not the biker's.

Okay - I'm long winded here.
To sum up:
No one knows whether Chris flooded a clueless bozo, did us a favor by stopping a bully, or further enraged a homicidal nut job.
In the road rage video case, I will guarantee that the driver who tried to kill that biker won't EVER try that again.
You have your vote - I'm going with the two guys above doing all of us on two wheels a big favor.

Please note - I would never recommend that you kick a car, fill a car with water or argue with a truck driver...
... (unless you are heavily armed - Sorry - I just couldn't help myself)

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Re: Bad Car Driver!!
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2017, 07:18:02 AM »
So, DD, by your logic... instead of asking you politely to not use offensive and stereotypical terminology ("Muzzies") in accordance with the policies of this forum, I should simply ask the forum moderators to delete your account with no explanation.  Right?
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Re: Bad Car Driver!!
« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2017, 10:45:24 AM »
So, DD, by your logic... instead of asking you politely to not use offensive and stereotypical terminology ("Muzzies") in accordance with the policies of this forum, I should simply ask the forum moderators to delete your account with no explanation.  Right?
By my logic - What logic is that?
Offensive and stereotypical?  "Muzzies" Really - How is that a pejorative term?
You pick that out of the whole conversation...
Amazing.
Sorry to offend you, as I had no idea that individuals who committed COLD BLOODED MASS MURDER deserved our ongoing respect and admiration.
The trade center murder of innocent people and those two killed everyone they could at a Christmas party are perhaps justified to you?
They are both worse case scenarios of individuals who feel justified in the demise of others.
I find THAT offensive. 
That a driver is willing to kill a biker (why else try to crush him into the concrete median) for scuffing his door...
I find THAT offensive.
Perhaps a total commitment to political correctness is in order?
Except that motorcycle riding is not politically correct. 
Bikes use gasoline which causes global warming and they are inefficient compared to a bus.
Since that GreenPeace driver in the Prius knows you are destroying the planet, I guess he's justified in running you off the road?
You can't do anything but be "nice" because anything else might be offensive, so just examine your habits and try to do better next time - You know - Stop riding.
If you were not on the road, this would not have happened, so it's you fault.
If that is what this forum is about, perhaps all conversations need to be held in a safe room with blankies and hot cocco...


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Re: Bad Car Driver!!
« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2017, 11:51:09 AM »

Your logic was that subversive, destructive action is justifiable, for a number of reasons including that it's funny or that it makes the perpetrator feel better.

The reason I picked that out is because I'm not engaging with the other arguments you are (or anyone else is) making in this thread.  Notice how I didn't mention any of them?
But I object to the blanket labelling of more than a billion people, including members of this forum, under one pejorative label because of the acts of a few.




I live in NYC.  I lived in NYC on September 11, 2001.  I lost friends and colleagues in that attack.  And I am a "Muzzie."  So yes, I take offense.
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Re: Bad Car Driver!!
« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2017, 08:23:15 PM »
Can't we all just get along?  uhuh1

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Re: Bad Car Driver!!
« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2017, 04:45:15 AM »
Can't we all just get along?  uhuh1

Silly man, of course not.

 

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