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« on: August 17, 2008, 05:01:25 PM »

Hello all,

I've had this cb700sc for about a month and it runs like a champ. Had 22K miles on it and I got it for $2450. Now the low down... The bike has overspray all over it which really sucks and the chrome on this bike is corroded and flaking. It could really use a face lift. You can't really tell that by the picture but up close it really eats away at me to get this bike looking nice again. The good thing is though that I have a good canvas to start with. For the "restoration" I thought about going with the original paint and decals but the longer I look at it the more I want to change it up a bit. I'm thinking about painting it black minus the OEM decals, maybe even a flat black? But for the most drastic of changes i've kicked around the idea of removing the bikini faring and going for a "naked bike" look, see the link>>> http://aztec8.com/id76.html I think the 4" dual headlight conversion kit would look nice.

And lastly that darn chrome. Rechroming isn't an economical option for me. But I scoured the internet and came across a chrome paint... now wait... it sounds cheezy I know, but this isn't any kind of chrome paint by the sounds of it... take a look>>>http://www.alsacorp.com/products/killercans/kc/killerchrome.htm#video If you scroll down there are some videos. I read on their FAQ that it can be used in high heat application with the use of a base powder coat and clear powder top coat whatever that means. I thought if I tried it I'd go with just a High heat primer.  The paint can version of the kit cost $115.

Has anybody else done much with painting their valve covers/engine parts with chrome? I'm looking for ideas/input.






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« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2008, 10:45:59 PM »

 welcome His Dudeness ! (cool username  smiler )

Nice bike ya got there!
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« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2008, 04:26:46 AM »

I believe you can actually buy a new tank for a reasonable sum.  The previous owner did that with mine about two and a half years ago.

Except for the original Triumph, twin round headlights always look too Johnny 5 to me.  Just as I find the 650's rectangular headlight incongruous on a swoopy bike, round eyes on the angular 700 would not gel for me.  A more important consideration is the instruments and how ungainly they may look without the fairing.
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Oh yeah, the engine parts can be polished to an amazing luster with free elbow grease.  The flaking is clearcoat.
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« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2008, 04:29:30 AM »

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« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2008, 06:03:56 AM »

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« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2008, 11:47:57 AM »

Hi Dude and welcome.

My thoughts on your restoration idea's:
-I've seen these bikes in both gloss black and flat black (without stickers). My personal taste is flat black, with a good clear coat. The reason is the seat looks very flat against a gloss black and therefore a flat looks better
-I've never liked the look of anything but the bikini fairing for a headlight on this bike. Don't get me wrong, I like the street fighter/naked look. But it seems to be best suited for bikes that are already partially naked. There is a great deal of wiring behind that fairing and you'd pretty much have look for some way to hide it all and buy a new instrument panel to boot.

BTW, what chrome are you referring to?
Is it the small amount on the engine? If so, then you can probably find used engine covers on flea-bay in better shape.
Chrome painting is allot of work and it doesn't last very long.

The other option is to paint the entire engine black to look like the 86's engine.
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« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2008, 10:43:43 PM »

Hi Dude and welcome.

My thoughts on your restoration idea's:
-I've seen these bikes in both gloss black and flat black (without stickers). My personal taste is flat black, with a good clear coat. The reason is the seat looks very flat against a gloss black and therefore a flat looks better
-I've never liked the look of anything but the bikini fairing for a headlight on this bike. Don't get me wrong, I like the street fighter/naked look. But it seems to be best suited for bikes that are already partially naked. There is a great deal of wiring behind that fairing and you'd pretty much have look for some way to hide it all and buy a new instrument panel to boot.

BTW, what chrome are you referring to?
Is it the small amount on the engine? If so, then you can probably find used engine covers on flea-bay in better shape.
Chrome painting is allot of work and it doesn't last very long.

The other option is to paint the entire engine black to look like the 86's engine.

Good inputs to gammer and happycommuter.

Gammer, do you have any pictures of any black 84'-86' cb700's? I'd really like to see what that would look like before parting ways with the OEM paint scheme.

I was looking it over and realized all the "chrome" is actually a polished aluminum with clearcoat. My problem is the clear coat is flaking as happycommuter pointed out. However it has allowed some of the clearcoat to turn a dark color. I think I can strip it off, repolish it and clearcoat it again.

Have you or anyone else messed with removing the valve cover off the engine? Is there enough clearence to remove it with out removing the engine or something else?

The more i've thought about the flat black idea the more I think it might actually look like an unfinished paint job... something more like primer. That is true though that a flat/matte clearcoat will improve the look and durablility of the paint... I think i'm going to ease back a bit on my crazy ideas. I was thinking the same thing about a new instrument cluster if I were to go with the naked bike front end. I'll hold on that one... That conversion alone is around $500+ to do the headlight and instruments.

I've also checked ebay and the pictures are sketchy as to whether the parts are in any better condition then the one's I have.  I think I'll hold what I've got and attempt to repolish and clearcoat them. Oh, and chrome polish has little effect on polished aluminum w/ a clearcoat.

And lastly, i think oldbikebarn.com has brand new OEM seats for $160. I saw the link on someones post elsewhere in the forum but I think that would really improve the overall aesthetics compared to the weathered, almost greying seat I have now.

I think just finding parts for this bike is half the fun. Now to figure out whats next!
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« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2008, 09:52:39 AM »

I have taken the valve cover off before. In fact I've had two of these engines stripped and built one back up again.
The valve cover is fairly easy to remove:
-remove seat and gas tank
-remove 'sub frame' bars
-remove ignition coils and 'air funnel' (plastic piece in front of coils)
-remove valve cover. There are 8 alan head bolts to take off. Sometimes the cover sticks due to the rubber seal...use a rubber mallet to tap it lightly to break it free. Then remove it slowly, making sure not to damage the rubber seal. If the rubber seal is un-damaged then you can re-use it.

Don't purchase the sticker kits from Old Bike Barn. You can get them direct from the supplier for a little bit less. There is a link to the supplier elsewhere on the forum.

I'll try to dig up some pics of plain black for you.
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« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2008, 11:31:51 AM »





and then this one:



and here is the link for the decal kits direct from the supplier:
http://www.cbdecals.afegraphics.com/index.php?cat_id=23&catname=cb700sc
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