Can you anticipate what other drivers will do next?

[Sobek]

Be honest and pretend it's you riding - at which point did you have the "I'll better slow down/brake/swerve" thought?

Better learn on mistakes made by others.

http://embed.break.com/1834886


And - I bet the guy was not wearing a full face helmet. Thus - ketchup on the pavement.

[Laminar]

I saw that one a mile away.

[happycommuter]

Honestly this one didn't give a lot of advance warning, and that whole 'wrong side of the road' thing made it even trickier.

Still, a slowing car is not a stopped car, even at a stop sign.  And I didn't really notice this rider slowing down appreciably for the crossing.

[Bumblebee]

It appears to be a classic case of looking but not observing.

[ariwhiteboy]

I agree with Hap, the wrong side of the road thing kinda threw me.  I started to get a severe case of the willies about the 9 sec. mark when he was halfway through the intersection.  I like how the  driver runs over and starts tugging on the guys (possibly broken) arm.  People never cease to amaze me.

[hppants]

IMO, he is riding way too fast for the conditions.  As Mr. Bee points out, he is moving his head, but not processing the information much.

[luckylindy]

That could have been avoided if the rider was on the brakes when he saw the car was rolling through the stop.
Strange street setup, must have carried over from horse/buggy days. 

[bajakirch]

This touches on a topic a friend and I were talking about the other day.

His son, 15 and chomping at the bit to get his driver's license, wants to pretty much immediately get a MC once he has his DL. Dad is getting concerned that his boy is drooling over the used Hayabusa at the local dealership, so he asked my opinion.

I told him that, in my opinion, it's foolish for anyone to get a motorcycle without at least 10 years of automobile driving experience under the belt. I know that may tick off some of you younger riders, but I'm serious. Riding a MC, any way you slice it, is more dangerous than driving a car...maybe 10-times more so. Driving a 'cage' for several years teaches you what to watch out for on the road and helps you avoid situations that could prove dangerous or deadly.

Case in point: I was driving home one night and saw a car coming up to a cross street. I can't explain exactly what it was, but there was just something about the way that car was being driven that brought it to my attention and flashed a warning to me. Sure enough, he rolled through the stop sign and pulled out in front of me. If I hadn't already been braking and prepared for him to be a dumba55, I might very well have ended up sliding across the pavement -- much like our itinerant cameraman above.

The 'wrong side of the road' thing in the video threw me for a bit, but I saw that car coming clear as day.

Not all collisions are preventable, but I'll take anything I can get that gives me enough edge to avoid as much as possible. Call me selfish that way.

[happycommuter]

I told him that, in my opinion, it's foolish for anyone to get a motorcycle without at least 10 years of automobile driving experience under the belt.

So where do bicycles fit in all this?  Doesn't one get even more observation of cars when peddling around?
Also, all a cage does nowadays is teach teens how to play with their phone while occasionally looking up and correcting course.  A motorcycle forces them to pay a bit more attention.

[NiteRyder]

I would disagree with the 10 years experience before getting a bike. I think my years of riding as a kid helped my to be a more observant driver. I do agree however, with not getting the Busa death machine as your first bike.
Last March my nephew took the MSF course got his M1 license a GSXR and 6 months later we were burying him. It was way too much bike for a new and young rider. I don't care how responsible the kid is, the temptation to use the available power is too much for a young rider. I feel guilty because my nephew asked me to help him talk his mom into getting the bike and I agreed, a decision I will live to regret to the day I die.
As for the video, I agree with Laminar, I saw that one coming just the fact that the traffic was going in all those crazy directions and the driver I bet never even saw the bike until impact.

[OhCrap]

Danger alarms went of inside my head as soon as I spotted the car luckily. It clearly had to much speed to stop in time and I would never even been in front of that car but would have gone to the left to avoid it. Driving on the wrong side of the road doesn't help either I guess :P

[OhCrap]

I told him that, in my opinion, it's foolish for anyone to get a motorcycle without at least 10 years of automobile driving experience under the belt.

So where do bicycles fit in all this?  Doesn't one get even more observation of cars when peddling around?
Also, all a cage does nowadays is teach teens how to play with their phone while occasionally looking up and correcting course.  A motorcycle forces them to pay a bit more attention.

Yeah, I have to disagree here as well. I got my bike license as soon as this countries laws permitted it at 18 after driving a moped for 2 years, and didn't get my car license till I was 25. Never had a real accident since then (I've been in 12 of them on my moped which didn't require a license over here back then), just came close to a few like most of us have. If you know what you're doing and been thought to look ahead and handle your bike properly it doesn't have to be dangerous at all imo. I do think some people should never have gotten there license in the first place though, bike nor car.

[Hondo]

I saw that before it happened as I was anticipating that driver to do just what he did.

All vehicles that are in your sphere of contact have to be assumed as threats.

[bajakirch]

I figured I'd rile a few people up with my '10 years' comment. 

The point I guess I was trying to make is that having some years of experience driving in the relative 'safety' of a car/truck gives you a better awareness and anticipation of what other drivers are likely to do once you hop onto 2 wheels and lose a thousand pounds of protective metal and glass.

[OhCrap]

I still disagree. But from what I've heard it's a lot harder here to get your license than it is in the USA (assuming that's where you're from) so of course that effects things.

People under 25 can only get their license for a <25kw bike nowadays (it wasn't like that when I was 18), and after a minimum of 2 years (I think) they have to take another driving test before they are allowed to drive a faster bike. They tune down a lot of sports bikes because of that now, I never get why people would want to buy a ZZR600 with 33hp power though 

[Messorius]

I figured I'd rile a few people up with my '10 years' comment. 

The point I guess I was trying to make is that having some years of experience driving in the relative 'safety' of a car/truck gives you a better awareness and anticipation of what other drivers are likely to do once you hop onto 2 wheels and lose a thousand pounds of protective metal and glass.

I wouldn't be getting on a bike until I was past 40 then.  Not everyone drives a car.

[rwilli1228]

I saw the threat before hitting play.  Every car on the road is trying to KILL YOU.  Cagers have seminars on how to run over bikers.  There is even a secret government organization promoting the death of all bikers.  In their propoganda pamphlets it instructs cagers on how to finish their execution of a biker.  Everyone on a bike is a cager's sworn enemy.  They're initiated at birth by blood oaths and goat sacrifices.  These are evil evil people.  They are physically larger and stronger and the only way to avoid their indiscriminate bloodlust is to stay away from them and be fanatically vigilant about maintaining space.  


The sooner you get in this frame of mind the better your chances of avoiding something like this.  

[chas550sc]

  Every car on the road is trying to KILL YOU.  They are physically larger and stronger and the only way to avoid their indiscriminate bloodlust is to stay away from them and be fanatically vigilant about maintaining space. 


The sooner you get in this frame of mind the better your chances of avoiding something like this.   

 
yup


if you don't take the attitude that you are responsible for putting yourself in the situatiion, you should sell the scoot.