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« on: August 14, 2010, 11:07:29 AM » |
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I've spent enough time derailing other threads talking about this bike, I might as well make a thread for it here. Purchased this month, nearly perfect shape.       Went through all of the scheduled maintenace - valves, spark plugs, fuel lines, carb sync, coolant flush, brake and clutch fluid flush, etc. These bikes have a history of excessive cam wear, but after 30,000 miles mine were still in perfect shape, so I lucked out there. Added an HID headlight. Swapped out the 3.18 rear end for a 3.40 from a Nighthawk 700s. Painted the black fairing to match.         The riding position is very comfortable, the bars are much higher up than the Daytona bars on my Nighthawk and the pegs are in a nice neutral position, further back than the Nighthawk's pegs. The engine definitely vibrates more than the Nighthawk, especially under 4000rpm. The V-configuration also makes it harder to work on than a simple inline, and adjusting the valves requires several hours to tear off the cooling system, ignition system, covers, valve covers, etc. It's a heavy bike at 540lbs (compared to 440lbs for my Nighthawk 550 and 460lbs for the Nighthawk 750) but with 121hp, it's supposedly capable of cracking off low 11 second quarter miles. Video to come soon. |
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« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2010, 11:38:04 AM » |
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She's looking good Laminar.  |
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« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2010, 12:13:17 PM » |
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Very nice Laminar  BTW, could you please outline why you swapped the rear end with a NH S rear end? I am curious about this mod. |
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« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2010, 12:24:49 PM » |
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If you need someone to get a good quarter mile time slip for you, let me know.
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« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2010, 12:25:40 PM » |
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Video to come soon.  I have 2 questions: 1. Which bike are you bringing to the 2011 rally? 2. How would you like to test ride RWB for a rally run?  |
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« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2010, 02:33:46 PM » |
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« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2010, 02:42:41 PM » |
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Very nice Laminar BTW, could you please outline why you swapped the rear end with a NH S rear end? I am curious about this mod. In stock form, 6th gear @ 70mph is roughly 3750rpm. So on anything less than the interstate, 6th gear is pretty useless. The Nighthawk rear end changes the ratios enough to improve acceleration down low without sacrificing too much cruising comfort. |
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« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2010, 02:58:14 PM » |
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She sounds just like I remember the Magna sounding. Real nice.
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« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2010, 04:17:47 PM » |
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Looks good & the v4 sounds awesome.
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« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2010, 05:29:06 PM » |
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Laminar, that bike is absolutely stunning! The Sabre was my favorite of the V-4 models and that one looks like it just rolled out of the mid 80s.
With no cam wear at 30K, would it be safe to say that someone did the oil mod? On the other hand, I know the original owner of an '83 Magna that never had the mod done. It depends on how it's been ridden.
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« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2010, 05:36:30 PM » |
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No oil mod. The bike has clearly been taken care of. It's weird actually having a "nice" bike. Everything I've had until now has been beat up and pieced together.
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« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2010, 06:29:58 PM » |
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VERY NICE! what a great bike! i was considering sabres and interceptors at the same time... but i found a nice interceptor first. if i could find a sabre that looks that good, preferrably with a smaller engine, SOQS may be riding a V-
also, MEGA kudos on that fairing job! i'm not that knowledgeable about sabres, but i imagine that fairing is aftermarket?
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« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2010, 06:31:44 PM » |
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Would using 'good' oil and changing it regularly help with the cam wear? Or is it more from abuse or high revving that causes the cam wear?
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« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2010, 07:16:20 PM » |
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I've always had a thing for the V65 Sabre.  |
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« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2010, 10:55:34 AM » |
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also, MEGA kudos on that fairing job! i'm not that knowledgeable about sabres, but i imagine that fairing is aftermarket?
Yep, it's a Rifle Nightflight. Would using 'good' oil and changing it regularly help with the cam wear? Or is it more from abuse or high revving that causes the cam wear?
The rumor is that a combination of high revving and low oil pressure below 3000rpm lead to excessive wear. There were apparently several iterations of cam designs from 82-86 as Honda tried to reduce failures, which is why I leaned toward looking at '85 Sabres. |
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« Reply #15 on: August 16, 2010, 06:49:48 PM » |
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Nice, I had a blue '85 Sabre. Found the seat height from the ground to be a bit of an issue for me. Very FAST! almost scared me at times... Not as easy to work on as an air cooled inline 4 though. Have fun with it, ride safe.
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« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2010, 07:33:46 PM » |
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The seat height isn't an issue for me, I'm 6'5". The power hasn't scared me (as I expected it to), but merging onto the interstate in 3rd is very nice.
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« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2010, 03:33:11 PM » |
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A timely response.
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« Reply #19 on: October 17, 2010, 03:41:40 PM » |
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A timely response.
Further proof of my non-wizardness...  Figured you'd like another opinion besides mine. Get flowing Laminar!  Motorcycle specific high flow filters..... http://www.purolatorautofilters.net/products/pages/motorcyclefilters.aspxIf you're thinking you want to install a PureONE oil filter on your bike, please think again. PureONE oil filters are designed for vehicles, not bikes. Because of PureONE's high efficiency, the motorcycle oil pump may not be able to handle the pressure. The Purolator motorcycle filter line is designed to meet the specific needs of a bike; therefore we highly recommend the use of a Purolator ML filter over a PureONE oil filter. |
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« Reply #20 on: October 17, 2010, 10:10:27 PM » |
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A timely response.
Further proof of my non-wizardness... Figured you'd like another opinion besides mine. Get flowing Laminar! I'm still not sure what you were trying to accomplish. I'm well aware of the issues surrounding the bike. Motorcycle specific high flow filters..... http://www.purolatorautofilters.net/products/pages/motorcyclefilters.aspxIf you're thinking you want to install a PureONE oil filter on your bike, please think again. PureONE oil filters are designed for vehicles, not bikes. Because of PureONE's high efficiency, the motorcycle oil pump may not be able to handle the pressure. The Purolator motorcycle filter line is designed to meet the specific needs of a bike; therefore we highly recommend the use of a Purolator ML filter over a PureONE oil filter. And some conjecture. Great. |
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« Reply #21 on: October 18, 2010, 06:55:42 PM » |
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Sigh...I had an 84 Sabre v45. I sold it to a friends kids and he trashed it. Man I miss that bike sometimes.
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« Reply #22 on: October 18, 2010, 06:57:05 PM » |
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Oh yeah....hey very nice bike....  |
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« Reply #23 on: October 18, 2010, 08:33:28 PM » |
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Man that thing is looking sweet Laminar! So are you going to bring that one to the rally next year?  |
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What is good Phaedrus, what is not good? Need we ask anyone this?
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« Reply #24 on: October 18, 2010, 10:39:59 PM » |
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Probably - can't let you and Soup be the only liter+ guys there.
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