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Author Topic: Transmission hard to shift (especially down) on cold mornings on 700s  (Read 641 times)
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« on: October 12, 2010, 02:07:16 PM »

Like the title states, one cold mornings the bike has a problem downshifting and sometimes upshifting. As the the day warms up its OK. Also, when it doesnt down shift I can SLIGHTLY tap "up" then down and it shifts OK. I should also mention that during summer months it works perfect. Other than this bike shifts and sounds normal. Any ideas?

 
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« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2010, 02:29:14 PM »

What oil are you using? weight?

SAE 30 or a 10W- something.
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« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2010, 02:33:04 PM »

Mine shifts smoother now with the rotella 15W-30.

though it likes to lurch forward when I fire it up with the clutch pulled and the bike in gear now.
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« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2010, 03:08:48 PM »

Is it using the engine oil? If so, whatever the manual recommends. I topped it off a while back. Probably 10w30 or 40
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« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2010, 06:22:00 PM »

Mine shifts smoother now with the rotella 15W-30.

though it likes to lurch forward when I fire it up with the clutch pulled and the bike in gear now.

Clutch slipping?  scratcher
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« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2010, 06:54:45 AM »

Definitely signs of slipping clutch due to fluid issues.  Check the Clutch Master Cylinder for adequate fluid, and bleed the slave cylinder.  If the fluid is nasty, drain both cylinders and clean them and start from scratch with new fluid of the appropriate type.
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« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2010, 07:16:08 AM »

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Is it using the engine oil? If so, whatever the manual recommends. I topped it off a while back. Probably 10w30 or 40

Doesn't sound like your problem area but remember to check the oil you use for friction reducers (actually call "Energy Conserving" in the circle on the back). The transmission and clutch both use the oil. Friction reducers on a clutch will cause it to slip.

I have found that the higher weight oils tend not to have them. Pennzoil for instance has friction reducers in the 10W-30 but not in their 10W-40. Apparently because the 40 is designed for trucks and such that might have wet clutches.

Try what biometrics said. He is more familiar with your bike than I.
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« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2010, 01:38:35 PM »

There doesnt seem to be any clutch slippage though. Also I noticed today when sitting in the garage that with the bike off. If I move the gear lever,it seems slow and sludgly,like its got honey for oil or something. Make sense..?
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« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2010, 07:32:48 PM »

It do sound like your clutch may not be disengaging completely. Try rebleeding the clutch and make sure you have no air in the line.
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