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« on: October 19, 2010, 09:03:26 AM »

Interesting article about a start-up helmet company.  All prototype for now.

http://hellforleathermagazine.com/2010/10/the-motorcycle-helmet-of-the-future/
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« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2010, 09:47:26 AM »

It looks like something straight out of star wars. (Wasn't there a scene somewhere in that show that had almost that exact helmet?)

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Because they rely on deformation, helmets are only capable of effectively absorbing the forces of a single impact; go bouncing down the road, hitting your head multiple times and your brain will turn to mush.

I disagree. Based on first hand, um, first head, experience and talking to others with similar experiences; The first hit is the high g impulse impact. After that it's low g forces and mostly sliding abrasion. It's not like you're high siding from sitting height multiple times.


I'm not so sure about gel inserts. They tend to leak after a while. They're also have the characteristics of water; Soft when touched and at least as hard as rock when impacted against.

The laminate and carbon fiber arch concept has great promise. I'd like to read more than what the article vaguely referred to for it's force dissipation and how it actually works in this design.

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Of course, you didn’t read this article because you go gaga over carbon members,

Um, actually, yes I did. The Earth is an awfully big hard thing to have fall on you. Cute and pretty doesn't cut it when you get sucker punched in the face by a planet.


It'll take a bit of real world crashes with the design before I'm willing to wear one. You only have one shot at a major head impact and at least for this caveman rider, first generation head protection designs is an unacceptable risk. They also have to do something about that hideous look.


P.S. Get a marketing department. Using “The Game of Death” and "Kill Bill" as a selling point is like naming a cage "The Impactor" and "Family Killer Deathtrap." Then again, the cage companies made a fortune selling things named Ram, Impulse and Probe.
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« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2010, 09:57:49 AM »

I wouldn't get too caught up in looks at this point.  If the technology proves to be sound over time I'm sure the helmets won't all have a Boba Fett design to them.  This is all prototype work and I agree, let it go through it's paces and see what kind of data develops.
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« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2010, 10:10:16 AM »

If it ain't broke why fix it?  I mean I understand that advances are made every day, but the reason every helmet manufacturer uses the old foam and hard shell formula is because it works. I agree with BB, it will be a long time before I risk my noggin on some new fangled design.
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« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2010, 10:18:29 AM »

I like it Fish 1.2    Maybe some intercooling/heating would be nice too.

You should contact the Mfg. and see if you could test one for free.  thumb

Be sure to ask for the optional helmet cam mount.  shog
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« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2010, 10:50:42 AM »

If it ain't broke why fix it?

I'll take a garden variety through the power lines 20g+ ball up your 100mph cropduster in the field crash with today's 5 point harness over a simple 2g straight crash with a 1920's lap belt anytime. That's why.


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Knocking current proven designs, beating own drums, selling image, hinting at capability. Reminds me a bit of a group with the initials HD.

I'm in the Faceplant Club. Forget the glitzy paint and video game culture. I want to see the hard core impact research including the real world Darwin testing procedure results.
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« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2010, 06:25:09 PM »

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Iron sharpens iron.

Using a regular screwdriver works. Using a power drill works better.
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« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2010, 06:46:36 PM »

BB, sean...hence my "I understand new advances are made every day" comment. I'm all for safety improvements, but will be trusting foam for a good while longer. Probably just because I won't be able to afford new tech as much as because I'm leery of it.
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« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2010, 11:43:06 PM »

Testing isn't that hard. Fling a dummy 15 feet in the air at 60 mph and see how he fares.

The Impulse has always got my, well, pulse, racing. The later version of the RS looked just as good, but only about 1,000 are in the US. And I know the definition of "impulse" is not what you want to experience during a crash. If you asked me its a great name.



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