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« on: November 06, 2010, 06:05:02 PM »

I'll do a full review with pics and all later, but for now this is just my first impression of my pair.

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Allow me to expound why I bought these in the first place:
  • Waterproof boots are too hot and don't breathe.  And they take forever to dry once wet.  I'm sick of waterproof boots.
  • Speaking of breathability, most motorcycle boots are some synthetic called Lorica.  I want leather.
  • Zippers don't work for me.  My left calf is an inch bigger around and I have narrow heels that will slip if the ankle is not strapped in tight.
  • I'm not tying some tall boot twice a day, or expecting some slip-on to stay on in a crash.
  • Did I mention these are made in America by Americans?
  • These have as plain and honest a look as possible.  Yes, there is an Indian chief logo, but it's nothing garish.
  • I'm tossing my last pair of boots because the soles wore through.  These can have new soles put on.  In fact, they came with a card for the restoration and resoling avialable at chippewaresole.com

I ordered the Chippewa Rally boots, #27862 from Hampton Shoe (americanmadeworkboots.com) because
1. No brick and mortar store anywhere seems to stock these things.  Seriously, I tried very hard to try a pair on before paying, and I don't believe it is possible.
2. Hampton shoe had the lowest price ($172.95), free shipping, and I give preference since I like their mission.

They were received in about three days, and I had sizing issues.  These are generously sized for heavy socks.  I found them a bit narrow nonetheless.  I sent my 7.5D back for a 7E (yes, I'm a few sizes smaller than average - this is one of many reasons I like this boot: it comes in a full range of sizes and widths).  Shockingly, still very roomy, but I looked closer and realized that there was no real insole to speak of.  I need arch support, so after another call to the vendor, tossed in a few insoles I had lying around till I found a pair of the right thickness (these, if anyone cares [from my American-made shoes]).

My previous pair of boots was the typical sneaker-ish thing with padding and glued-on rubber soles.  These are workboots.  They are made of heavy leather with thick rubber soles.  They require breaking in, and I'm on day two so far.  It has made a big difference and I expect them to start taking my shape and motion even better with time.

Anyway, the leather is good, soft in texture, but sturdy as mentioned before.  They have a very matte appearance. The toe pad is literally padded.  There is no armor.  They are lined, and have a friggin serial number inside. 

I'm very fond of the closure system.  The boot opens right down to that bottom strap below the ankle and there is no goofy gusset to get in the way.  The two velcro straps straddle the ankle nicely and secure the boot around the major bend line.  And they did the velcro right so that you don't have the unused portion of the hook stuff catching and snagging everything.  The bit of stray glue on the inside of the velcro flap was the biggest quality complaint I have, but it really is just a minor cosmetic issue.

The heel is rather tall at about 1-1/8" and the top of the sole reaches 1-7/8".  The heel corners are sharp, and this cause a bit of a struggle when don riding pants.  I might chamfer the corners down with a file scratcher

My riding impression can wait, because these are not fully broken in, and any new boot will not be as disgustingly familiar as what's been on my feet for the last few years.  They're stiff at the moment, so feel is not so great.  I suspect that these just won't telegraph feedback from the brake pedal or shifter as intimately as my last thin-soled Lorica boots did, but time will tell.

Overall, they are a hell of a lot of boot for the money, and are sure to last a decade or more.  It's nice to know that old school stuff like this exists, but part of the price is this break-in. 
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« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2010, 06:13:44 PM »

They look very nice Happy. I'm really wanting a pair of those myself. Will they discount them from referral?

Are they somewhat lined? Wonder how warm they'll be in the summer.... scratcher

PS, I've never measured my calves.... ImaPoser
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« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2010, 06:25:59 PM »

Those are some nice looking boots. Nothing too flashy like the majority of the riding boots I see out there. That has been my biggest complaint when shopping for boots. I dont feel it is necessary to have boots that are several obnoxious colors. Im interested in how those break in. I am currently shopping for new boots and so far, the only other ones I am considering are the Icon Super Duty 4's that just came out. I have the 2's which I like but after about 7 months of use, the soles are completely worn out and the right boot now squeaks when I walk.  banghead
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« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2010, 06:30:09 PM »

Are they somewhat lined? Wonder how warm they'll be in the summer.... scratcher
They are fully lined in that buttery-soft thin leather, and I now realize that there is very thin padding between the leather layers.
PS, I've never measured my calves.... ImaPoser
Years ago I ordered a pair of Bates Fastlane boots*, which zippered to the top.  Right leg zipped up, left one couldn't get over my fat calf.  Thus I learned of further asymmetry.

*Note that those boots cost $250 now (~$225 then).  This boot is a bargain.  I also recommend this book for you.

I dont feel it is necessary to have boots that are several obnoxious colors.
These are only one obnoxious color (with black).
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« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2010, 06:48:24 PM »

Wait a minute! I usually only settle for the best....generally speaking.

Are you prompting me back toward my traditional values thinking I'm slipping?

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« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2010, 08:01:22 AM »

Do you find any problem having that sort of heel catch on your pegs? I tend toward flatter bottom boots but maybe it is my lack of coordination or just takes a bit of getting used to?
What sort of tread is on the bottom?
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« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2010, 06:06:16 PM »

Functionally, I'd prefer a flatter sole, but this is what you get with a Goodyear welt.
So far no real issues with the pegs, just a sort of numbness with the controls.  It's possible with continued use that the steep heel may occasionally snag up during braking or shifting, but not yet.  The H-D engineer boots I wore last millenium had a similar heel and I don't recall them causing issues.
The sole has a pretty flat pattern, as shown below.


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« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2010, 03:44:55 PM »

These are largely broken in now, and there is not much more to say.  I learned that a tight insole with thin socks was a stupid idea, and swapped out to a thinner insole and thicker socks.  The heel cup is stiff/supportive, and needed some manipulation to get it to stop rubbing me wrong.  There is still an odd inflexibility and snugness when the boots are first put on, but it goes away as they warm up.  After the first few minutes, they are a tad heavy and clunky but pose no real comfort issues.  The velcro straps are a bit tricky to get adjusted to the right tension, but I imagine the leather will shape to bend at the right point soon and this will become a mindless activity.

The heel does hit the foot peg during shifting, leading to a very slight change in where my foot hits the shifter.  The heel also seems to rest against the exhaust while riding, but it doesn't seem to be doing any damage.  Also, they no longer pose an issue while donning riding pants, as I've learned the angle needed to slip them through.


Keep in mind that I am persnickety, and prone to feeling peas trough mattresses...
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« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2010, 03:49:02 PM »

Thanks fo the review Happy....

 

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« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2010, 04:01:32 PM »

I like to think that being a malcontent makes me a good reviewer, but I feel I should add the disclaimer for those less obsessive.

The salesman that I bought my car from gave me the princess title when I mentioned that the rear end got light with less than half a tank of gas.  But seriously, if you wear cutesy dress socks with these boots while new, you'll break skin.

Oh, I had some Nikwax lying around, so they've gotten that treatment, but no real wet testing yet.
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« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2010, 04:13:46 PM »

I like to think that being a malcontent makes me a good reviewer, but I feel I should add the disclaimer for those less obsessive.
That all good with me, I've grown to appreciate your attention to detail.
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« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2011, 04:54:30 PM »

HC,
Can I trouble you for some "one year later" comments on these?
I like the looks of them and need to get some real riding boots.
Thanks.
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« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2011, 06:04:03 PM »

There was a fairly long period where I was convinced that I was between sizes or had chosen poorly, but apparently at some point I kept them on long enough to get really warm and damp enough to mold to my foot.  Comfort is just no longer a factor.  They go on and they fit and all is right.

The leather has a few very minor nicks and stuff if you look closely, but considering the minimal maintenance I gave them they show almost no wear.  The very back of the heel is rounding out a bit, but clearly has a few more years - and I can get new heels put on anyway.

I still love the design, both functionally and stylistically, and my assumption that these things would last a good long time seems to be correct.  Similarly, they resist rain intrusion an adequately long time, and more importantly I've never had to deal with them being soggy the next day.  I don't recall any temperature or breathing issues either, at least not while riding.

I'd have to say I'm quite happy with these boots and would recommend them.  The only caveats are that they aren't truly armored, and there is a substantial break-in period.

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« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2011, 01:26:42 PM »

HC -
oops!  Sorry for my slow response.
I appreciate the feedback.  Think I'll give 'em a go.

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