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« on: January 28, 2011, 02:12:01 PM » |
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I notice some riders drag their feet when accelerating from a stop. Is there a point to it? I've tried it out of curiosity and it just made me feel very much off balance and exposed. I've always put my feet on the pegs the very second I take off ever since I started riding. Even when there is a half second of no acceleration from a stop it is quite easy to keep both feet on the pegs before the acceleration begins.... at least in my case
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« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2011, 02:19:21 PM » |
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Sometimes I don't even bother putting my feet down to begin with...  |
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« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2011, 05:22:07 PM » |
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Sounds like a bad habit that I have from time to time.
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« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2011, 05:42:58 PM » |
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Dead slow getting through a tight fitting area or awkward terrain, sure, no problem, but that's not what you're talking about. Across the intersection and half a mile further = Poor to horrible riding skills. (I saw a rider get all the way to the next light signal at 45mph before picking his foot up) It serves no operational purpose under the conditions they do it other than maybe looking cool to their friends. My theory is that maybe they're so unskilled that their brains are overloaded and forget they left their foot out there to be broken when it hits something in the road. Looks stupid. Then there's that whole silly looking MSF lesson thing where the rider walks with their feet on the ground while sitting on the seat under power that riders do at traffic signals..just..no class whatsoever. Why do they even teach that? I don't understand the point. Start rolling, feet straight up and onto the pegs and set after about 6 inches for forward motion without taking a single step. Roll to a complete stop, zero all wheel movement with no forward motion, feet down - though I often try to stay balanced with feet up as long as possible. Gentle smooth foot extend/retract movements with no quick slapping your foot on the ground nonsense is the goal. Sometimes if balance is right with brakes set, handlebars turned and your butt off the seat, you can sit there for an incredibly long time. Whenever I oopsie and get off balance and put a foot down or, egad, take an off balance step while moving, I'm obviously not up to acceptable skill level requirements and feel like a complete idiot klutz. Slow skill practice sessions are exempt from ridicule because they make you better when you're doing serious riding. You know those moments; Like when you end up taking half a dozen hopping sideways steps leaned way too far over with the bars turned to the stop as you set it down carefully on the ground and step off as the motorcycle suddenly tries to roll backward under you, occasionally falling down next to the motorcycle in a heap, well, that's what happens while operating too close to your personal skill limits and go a bit too far.  It serves a purpose though. |
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« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2011, 05:44:18 PM » |
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Often when coming up to a stop light that has recently turned green, I'll do my darndest to not take my feet off the pegs by feathering the clutch just enough to maintain some forward movement. If you keep practicing you can get good enough to even come to a complete stop without dabbing. Man, now I want to go practice this.  |
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« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2011, 05:55:23 PM » |
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If you keep practicing you can get good enough to even come to a complete stop without dabbing. Yep....  |
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« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2011, 07:28:59 PM » |
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Occasionally, I'll put my foot(feet) in something oily or otherwise slippery. In those cases, I drag my soles for 10-15 feet to remove it from the soles of my boots.
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« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2011, 08:14:11 PM » |
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Interesting question.
I have only witnessed it on sportbike riders and (no offense) older female Harley riders. Not very often, though.
My wife will put her feet down just before she comes to a complete stop, but does not drag her feet when accelerating. I try to discourage her, but I think it is a bad habit from her bicycle days.
If I am riding in tight spots slowly, I might duck walk or leave my feet hanging, but I don't drag them, as it is not safe, can get my feet caught under the pegs.
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« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2011, 09:43:16 PM » |
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I'm with Bee, I suspect poor skills. I've only seen it done by some cruiser riders (males, Green!   ) I have been known to paddle up on a particulary tight filter but not drag. |
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« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2011, 10:07:04 PM » |
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Just poor skills, IMHO. Actually, in North Carolina, one of the requirements for getting a Motorcycle License is come to a stop, then accelerate and leave, without putting a foot down, (dabbing). My little sister went to get hers on a 1972 Honda CL175 dad owned, (horrible bike), and couldn't do it. The examiner gave her three attempts. When she failed the third time, she got off the bike and said him, "here, you do it". He tried, and couldn't on that bike, so he gave her the endorsement. Since I quit riding dirt bikes, it's feet on the pegs when moving, unless, as others have stated, you have to duck walk in traffic.
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« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2011, 10:16:30 PM » |
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I put my feet down a bit early when stopping in traffic to give the jackass behind me yet another visual clue that "HEY I'M STOPPING!"
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« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2011, 07:51:31 AM » |
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I've gotten into the habit of flashing my brake light when slowing in hopes that the kid behind me that is texting, MIGHT look up and see me.  |
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« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2011, 09:01:50 AM » |
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I flash my brake light depending on the scenario. Sometimes some moron in a cage mistakes it for being a vindictive gesture and it encourages them to get on my ass even more. I swear... I just really want to kill cagers sometimes.
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« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2011, 09:33:08 AM » |
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In my experience, newbie riders that haven't mastered the correct ratio of throttle input to clutch slip tend to drag their feet (author quote: "when accelerating from a stop") in expectation of a sudden stall.
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« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2011, 09:50:50 AM » |
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In my experience, newbie riders that haven't mastered the correct ratio of throttle input to clutch slip tend to drag their feet in expectation of a sudden stall. At 30+mph hundreds of feet past where they were stopped at? Not buying it even a little bit. Even if they did flop over at that speed, a foot down wouldn't do anything useful. I flash my brake light depending on the scenario. Sometimes some moron in a cage mistakes it for being a vindictive gesture and it encourages them to get on my ass even more. I swear... I just really want to kill cagers sometimes. Fair's fair: |
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« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2011, 02:46:28 PM » |
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In my experience, newbie riders that haven't mastered the correct ratio of throttle input to clutch slip tend to drag their feet in expectation of a sudden stall. At 30+mph hundreds of feet past where they were stopped at? Not buying it even a little bit. Even if they did flop over at that speed, a foot down wouldn't do anything useful. I flash my brake light depending on the scenario. Sometimes some moron in a cage mistakes it for being a vindictive gesture and it encourages them to get on my ass even more. I swear... I just really want to kill cagers sometimes. Fair's fair: Gotta get me one of those!!!! |
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« Reply #16 on: January 31, 2011, 08:39:09 AM » |
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« Reply #17 on: January 31, 2011, 08:48:11 AM » |
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I'll do this on occasion. That occasion is when I come to a stop after riding for 250+miles straight. I'll even dangle my feet (behind pegs) at speed at that point too so not really the same.
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