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Your Honda Nighthawk / Re: New to me CB650SC Nighthawk
« on: August 14, 2017, 07:48:10 PM »
In a word,,,, Dang!
A color change and add some bags and it's the same bike....
Was it reincarnated ?

Your Honda Nighthawk / Re: Black 1992 Honda Nighthawk CB750
« on: August 14, 2017, 05:18:30 PM »

Your Honda Nighthawk / Re: My '96 CB750 "Dragon Bike"
« on: August 14, 2017, 05:13:09 PM »
I love the fork gaiters. The fairing is a bit big for my tastes but I'm sure it's useful. Good to see a NH in such good condition and being used for what it was made for...riding.

How do you like the Progressive rear shocks. I've been thinking of updating my suspension.
Howdy OT
Yep - Update your suspension - You'll be glad you did. 
The shocks work well at soaking up the small stuff while preventing big bangs on the nastier bumps..
Maybe that's why they are ... progressive.....
With my stock shocks it was really difficult (impossible) to set a pre-load that worked full spectrum..
I put in new Progressive fork springs at the same time and they made a big positive difference in handling for me.
Since I ride on dirt the fork boots were a must.. Some people don't like the look, but with boots your forks (and seals) will last a LOT longer.
Thanks for your post.

Your Honda Nighthawk / Re: My '96 CB750 "Dragon Bike"
« on: August 14, 2017, 04:29:21 PM »
That's a beautiful bike.  I had one just like it with many of the same modifications you have done.  I don't really miss it, though.  I didn't have too much sentimental feeling for the '96.

On the other hand, I miss my '84 RWB 700s a LOT.
Thanks for the compliment.
As as far as missing a bike, I think a lot of that is the memories that are made while you had a particular machine...
In my case, my bike got me out of the marriage from hell, so even if that were on a moped, I'd still miss it!

I think one reason there are still some "dedicated" NH fans is because although the Hawks were not at the pinnacle of perfection in any one area, they perform very well in just about all areas.
To refresh your memory....
    Reasonable price
    Good MPG
    Ultra Reliable
    Low Maintenance
    Good Parts Availability (for a 14-26 year old bike)
    Multi-year interchangeable parts
Since it's a "standard" you can actually ride it all day relatively comfortably, take it on a trip with saddlebags... like the Make Mine Vanilla article..
In any case, I find it a lot more fun to own, for all of the above reasons, than my VF1000R was...  Yes, she was pretty, but a bhatch to live with...

Your Honda Nighthawk / Re: My '96 CB750 "Dragon Bike"
« on: August 14, 2017, 04:06:29 PM »
Oops forgot a pic...
The Rifle fairing has a dash, so I added a clock, altimeter (barometer) crusader radar and compass/thermometer.
The radar detector also picks up traffic alerts, and displays a voltmeter and temperature.
The white dot is a flashing blue (when detected) LED radar/laser alert.  It also provides a freeze alert below 33 degrees.
What can I say.. I tend to go "geek"...


Your Honda Nighthawk / Re: My '96 CB750 "Dragon Bike"
« on: August 14, 2017, 09:08:18 AM »
Looks a lot like my old 96, but I had the smaller Superbike fairing.  Good looking bike.
Thank you sir... 
I also looked at the Rifle Superbike, but went for the additional protection (and side pockets).
I'll bet you miss your '96 - I know I would...

Your Honda Nighthawk / Re: My '96 CB750 "Dragon Bike"
« on: August 14, 2017, 09:05:01 AM »
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Nice looking Hawk!
Aye Captain!
Thanks for the tip... I updated the post...

Your Honda Nighthawk / My '96 CB750 "Dragon Bike"
« on: August 13, 2017, 03:20:36 PM »
So, I've had my '96 NightHawk for 11 years now, and I thought I'd share some photos I took just after she had a bath...

Thanks (Once Again!) to Mollusc for helping me out with how to post Flickr pics.. 
I updated the post with actual pics....

My '96 front view...

Notable mods: 
Avon Storm 3-D front tire
Fork Boots (I have 2 miles of gravel before I get to pavement - Ding proofs the fork tubes / seals)
Rifle Fairing with sport windscreen
Progressive fork springs

Right Side:

Notable Mods:
Crusaider Radar (antenna attached under front of fairing)
Fiamm Horn(s)
Case Savers / Pegs
Joe Rocket Manta XL Tank Bag
Corbin Gunfighter Seat
Saddlemen Gel Fleece Pad

Left Side:

Notable Mods:
Front Fender Extension
Fiamm Horn(s)
Hel Stainess Steel Brake Line
Case Savers / Pegs
17 Tooth Front Sprocket
Clear Rear turn signal covers

Case Saver / Peg Closeup:

Right Rear Closeup:

Notable Mods:
Progressive Rear shocks
Avon Storm Tire(s)
Gold X-Ring Chain

Since I have a long ride on dirt, it isn't often the bike is this clean!


Stablemates / Re: After 11 years, I got a new bike.
« on: August 13, 2017, 12:37:32 PM »
Nice Bike, MrF,
It's funny, I've also owned my 96 750 for 11 years, and before I did, I was also actively looking at your new bike.
In my case, I've finally got it to the way I like it.
Maybe my bike had better previous owners, because my problems have been virtually non-existent.

Anyway, good luck with the new scoot !!

Keep the rubber on the bottom...


General Motorcycle Discussion / Re: CB750 page at Wikipedia
« on: August 10, 2017, 08:39:15 AM »
Oops... just noticed the 110 / 120 112/122 error..
My bad...

General Motorcycle Discussion / Re: CB750 page at Wikipedia
« on: August 10, 2017, 08:35:11 AM »
My '96 has a 17 tooth front (stock is 15) and stock sized 38 rear sprocket both of which were changed when it was time for a new chain.

Was a 112-link chain (110 is stock) long enough for the 17-t sprocket install?
No, the stock size is too short (not a big surprise, the front sprocket is 2 teeth bigger).
You should get an extra master link (2 instead of one) when you buy your chain, because the 122 is a bit long, and you won't have much adjustment left.
After several thousand when the chain is stretched a bit (or when you run out of adjustment space), remove the original master and one adjacent link and install the new master you wisely purchased earlier (so you now have a "stretched" 120) and you're good. 
It's a little bit of a pain, but if you have a decent set of chain tools, it isn't a difficult job, and you don't have to remove the chain twice to do it.

If you do a lot of interstate, it is well worth it.  If you are mainly a city driver, probably not.
The way you get improved mileage is by the engine not working so hard at a given ground speed.
Where I live, the speed limit is 75, so my bike spends a lot of time as a fast mover.

In the interest of full disclosure, instead of a roll on for passing, you need to downshift to get the bike into the powerband..
With the mod described, 4th gear is like 5th in the stock configuration.
You'll get better mileage because you are turning fewer revs, but of course that means the engine is producing less power.
That's how you get the big mileage bump - there's a big difference between 4K and 5K on the tach.

One other advantage is that the larger front is a bit easier on the chain, as it gets less "pinch" up front.

Keep the rubber on the bottom!

General Motorcycle Discussion / Re: CB750 page at Wikipedia
« on: August 09, 2017, 10:02:34 AM »
My 700s has been dialed up with main and idle jets and K&N filter in box. No flat spots now and very linear. Good from 4K RPM up/no surge on top end to write home about in comparison to weakness down below. It's way too lean stock. It's still not massive down low (don't get me wrong), but it now isn't weak in comparison to up top. Gas mileage only 32mpg. :(
WOW - 32 mpg...  Ouch!
My '96 has a 17 tooth front (stock is 15) and stock sized 38 rear sprocket both of which were changed when it was time for a new chain.
At 4 grand on the tach, I'm doing ~ 78 mph and I consistently get  45 mpg doing it.

Besides the better mileage with a taller front, it makes touring at speed a lot more pleasant.
With the stock gearing, the bike always felt like it should have had another gear past 5th.
Not No More.

I'd highly recommend this mod to anyone who does a lot of interstate driving.

The other mod that I think made a big difference in both comfort and economy, was the addition of a Rifle Sport fairing.
Much better aerodynamics, lots of protection and it doesn't add much weight.  i noticed a good bump in fuel economy after the install.
I got both the shorter sport windshield for summer and the taller touring shield for winter.

Keep the rubber on the bottom folks...

General Motorcycle Discussion / Re: CB750 page at Wikipedia
« on: August 08, 2017, 03:05:19 PM »
DesertDragon - the DOHC 1996 you are referring to is the Nighthawk or the F2?  I'm researching the F2 right now -- I'm not familiar with it at all.

mollusc - someone made the point one time that the Nighthawk was in someways a cheaper bike than the 700S -- chain drive instead of shaft, cable activated clutch instead of hydraulic, more plastic, and some other things I can't remember.
I'm thinking the questions are pretty well answered, but - I can usually find enough change to throw in my 2 cents...
Yep - The 96 (actually 91 to 03 imported to the US and Canada in pretty much the same form have the CB750 designation and are NightHawks...
As Mollusc pointed out, the later 'Hawks were a "cheaper" bike. 
Part of Honda'a research and marketing strategy was to build the bike to a price point, specifically $3000 USD.
To do that, they reused some parts and simplified others (like the brakes and clutch).
They were also making it a recognizable grandson of the original CB750, which had many of the same features..

As far as the other discussions around powerband, the latter CB750's actually hit their sweet spot in the power curve at about 5 grand, so you don't really need to alter the cam timing, especially since the bike (IMHO) has relatively low gearing to begin with.

Some of the comparisons aren't really so much better or worse (cheaper or expensive) as they are about preference.
Is shaft drive more expensive than chain drive?  Costs more to manufacture, but is it better?
As with everything, there's a trade off.  Shafts are less efficient for power delivery, but cleaner and require less ongoing maintenance.
They also "feel" different.  Especially for quick power on/power off situations, shafties tend to have more input into the suspension.

So, I guess it depends on what you like or feel is more significant.

Your Ride Reports / Re: I Went To The Edge
« on: August 06, 2017, 04:04:34 PM »
Cool pics, Mr. Pants...
I would concur in the "built for comfort" vs. the "built for speed" criteria, over the long haul, the former wins.
In my case my Honda VF1000R was sold after I discovered I was allergic to clip-ons.. 
I'm a lot happier with my much easier to live with 96 NightHawk 750, and after a full day's ride I don't need to crawl off the bike and into a chiropractor's office...

Keep the rubber on the bottom...



General Motorcycle Discussion / Re: CB750 page at Wikipedia
« on: August 06, 2017, 03:49:26 PM »
Perhaps a bit off topic, but hey - That's me on occasion.
I owned a 74 CB750 SOHC that had some custom engine work and a pretty loud 4 into 1 Kerker that seemed pretty quick at the time...
Well, at the time it WAS pretty quick because when introduced the CB750 was a "SuperBike!" 
The features it had were light years ahead at the time and its introduction pretty well swamped the competition.
The other "hot bikes" were 650 twins, if you were around back then to remember.

The 750 DOHC NightHawks on the other hand were built based upon extensive user survey feedback for what riders wanted.
Maybe it was just nostalgia, but sometimes people want what they don't think they can have, and when they can have it, they don't want it...

In any case, I remember an article on the 'Hawks entitled "More Mr. Nice Guy"...
The 91+ DOHC Hawks were built for what people said they wanted - Easy to live with, practical, and pretty good at everything.. i.e. a "Standard".

There are a lot more features on a bike to compare beyond horsepower, which is especially useful between thse two...
Here are a few I remember:

                      1974                            1996             
                      SOHC 750                     DOHC 750                           Impact                   
                       bkr3                           bkr3
Wheels            Laced/Spoke                 Cast                                     Adjust vs. No maintenance required
Brakes            1 Disc Front / Drum       1 Disc Front / Drum               Same setup
Alternator        Hanging on left side       Tucked behind cylinders         Narrower engine profile
Cam Chain       Requires Adjustment      Automatic                            Adjust vs. No maintenance required
Valves              8 SOHC screw adjusted  16 DOHC Hydraulic               Adjust vs. No maintenance required 
Ignition            Points/Condenser          Electronic                             Adjust / Repair / Replace vs. No maintenance required 
Horsepower      Less                             More                                    More is better!

While my '74 was a good bike, it required a LOT of maintenance to keep it running at it's peak. 
A couple of forays up to redline and it was time to do a valve adjustment, and adjust the cam chain.
A bump or two and it was adjust the wheel spokes... I fondly remember the dig, ding, thunk..
Well, I do remember, just not fondly :-)

Less easily identified in a list, but my '96 "feels" a LOT lighter and handles a lot more like a sportbike than the '74...
A good part of this IMHO is because the '74 was shod with bias-plys and my '96 has current century radials.
Tires have come a long way since then.

For me the bottom line is that the later versions are the refined great-grandsons of the earlier pioneer.
You can do a lot more riding with a lot less maintenance on the later versions.
That and the newer CB750 is Ultra-Reliable - Something I never could say (truthfully) about many other bikes I've owned.

My 2 cents.



General Motorcycle Discussion / Re: Funny
« on: August 01, 2017, 09:57:54 AM »
I just came across this - Too Funny!

Aye Captain!
If I were Elvis, I would say...
"Thank You.. Thank You Very Much!"

General Motorcycle Discussion / Re: The Four Stroke Engine...
« on: July 31, 2017, 08:35:10 AM »
IIRC, there's a bar in Myrtle Beach called "Suck Bang Blow".  Supposed to be quite popular during bike week.  Apparently they have a burnout pit inside, and burnout competitions.  Look on youtube, several guys burnout till the tire blows.
A bar with a burnout pit inside? 
With enough alcohol, concentrated burning rubber might be tolerable, but hopefully they have a way of getting rid of the exhaust too...
I guess I just can't understand why someone would want to do burn outs on a tire, blow it and then walk home...
....unless maybe an impressed unattached can be persuaded to give the guy a ride home (But I wrecked my bike for you!!!)
Call me old fashioned, but I prefer rubber on my rim rather than on the ground.. and I always thought that burning rubber was an advertisement for "I'm proud of my lack of traction"...

Okay, sorry, I got carried away and rained on your post....
My bad.

General Motorcycle Discussion / Re: The Four Stroke Engine...
« on: July 30, 2017, 09:44:35 AM »
I have seen references to a Wankel MC, but haven't actually seen one. It seems about as far from American v-twin "potato potato potato" as you can get! :joker:
Google just found it for me.
It was the 75/76 Suzuki RE5.

I remembered seeing one in a Suzuki Dealer's showroom, and it had the factory fairing on it which made it look even more bizarre...

General Motorcycle Discussion / Re: The Four Stroke Engine...
« on: July 30, 2017, 08:57:32 AM »
Intake, compression, power, exhaust...
Perhaps a cold brew would ease your seem wrapped pretty tight over this whole affair. whoohoo1
Aye Captain!
Not really wrapped - Just an (apparently) feeble attempt at humor...
And now for something completely different... The Wankel Rotary Engine!!!
Ah yes, now for a completely different topic.. the Wankel...
Actually, wasn't there a Suzuki MC made way back with a Wankel?
If I recall correctly, it looked like it belonged to George Jetson.. or his boy Elroy, maybe daughter Judy... But probably not Jane, his wife....

Aye Captain..
Yep - Jail is an excellent place for that "woman".

I was upset by the article, and it is very sad that a low life can take out what sounded to be a really great guy.
My point in bringing it up wasn't for the depression it might cause, but rather for awareness purposes.
There truly are folks out there who are so tied up in their own little world that they have no perspective on their actions, and probably feel justified in whatever they do.

In both this case and the "dramatic dash cam video" one where the driver crashed trying to kill the biker, the guys on the bike kicked the car.
For a driver (in either case) to take that kind of action based on a scuff.... That fuse was lit and it was only a matter of time before something happened.

I guess the take away for me is, our 600 lbs of man and machine is no match for a psycho in a tank, and a car IS A TANK compared to a bike.
Since you don't know if it's just an inattentive driver who nearly ran you off the road, or a dedicated psycho, rolling the dice on retaliation isn't a safe bet.
Driving actively defensively and expecting the worst out of other drivers has helped me avoid both altercations and collisions.

If it does turn out to be a psycho, and they continue in their vehicular tirade, I would (and have) called 911 with their license number and description.
In a big city - might not work immediately, but psycho's tend to remain psychotic, so if they are reported more than once.... Eventually karma will bite back.

Sometimes a conversation with a guy in uniform can make a difference.
If a cop had pulled that "woman" over earlier, she would have had her car impounded and maybe some jail time for driving suspended etc.
So, for something constructive, I would suggest that anyone encountering a dangerous driver to report them.  It could save someone's life.

As far as the open carry comment, it can provide a good reason for an otherwise psycho to perhaps change his/her mind - just by being there.
An armed society is a polite society.  It does put a serious onus of responsibility on the possessor, and in many places isn't an option.

As far as actually USING a weapon, you are right.  Significant risk is involved, even if you are entirely justified in defending yourself.
I think using ANY deadly weapon is a last - Not the first resort, but what's that old saying... Better to be judged by 12 than carried by six...

Keep the rubber on the bottom

The case originally happened a few years ago but the %!$%#@ driver recently took a plea so she wouldn't get 20 years.
She chased after and MURDERED a biker intentionally.

Similar to a recent case where a driver tried to kill a biker for kicking his door after the car driver illegally swerved into his lane...
In both cases, the drivers were behind the wheel of a Nissan.
Apparently, drivers of these cars (in some cases) have issues.

In both cases, had the biker let it go, it probably would be another econo-box occupant that was killed or injured at some later date by one of these psycho's.

Sometimes, it doesn't matter what you do, or what you did.

Keep your eyes open folks, examples of brain dead self entitled idiots out there are happy to run you down, or off the road actually exist.

Every time I'm on a bike, I assume that I am invisible to EVERYONE.. Except the people that are trying to kill me.
If they don't try - great.  If they do, I'm ready.

Sounds crazy ? - Yep Crazy drivers willing to kill you for being in their way.  That is crazy.

While I would never start an incident, I also won't be a victim.
Lucky for me, I'm in an open carry state.

General Motorcycle Discussion / Re: The Four Stroke Engine...
« on: July 29, 2017, 03:06:25 PM »
I was clearly not prepared for a thorough assessment analysis...
So... Suck, (Intake), Squeeze (Compression) and Belch (Exhaust)" are okay..
I'm thinkin' "Power Stroke" doesn't quite fit the overall intent...
That would mean 3 of 4 strokes begin with an "S" resulting in the need for a significant counter-balancer...and too many SSSess for me...
Although "Rapid piston acceleration via expanding contained volume volatile fuel air combustion" is kinda catchy...

How about "Blam!" or "Boom", which also goes nicely with Belch.... well so does bang..


Any other suggestions for the 4 stroke Otto engine semi~simplified?



General Motorcycle Discussion / The Four Stroke Engine...
« on: July 29, 2017, 10:23:02 AM »
Okay, so each of a four stroke engine's cycles is described by the significant action occurring in each, to wit:

Intake - fuel/air mixture is drawn into the cylinder as the piston goes down
Compression - the mixture is compressed as the piston goes up
Ignition - the spark plug sparks, exploding the compressed mixture and driving the piston down
Exhaust - the leftovers from the combustion process are expelled through the exhaust as the piston goes up...
...and the process repeats...

I'm thinking that more descriptive terms could be applied to each cycle...




General Motorcycle Discussion / Re: Don't wrap your pipes
« on: July 27, 2017, 02:12:59 PM »
Wow - Header Wraps - Another great slogan for "Bad Idea" Jeans... 
No benefit and tremendous downside...  Hopefully header wrapping won't become a mandatory federal program...

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