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General Motorcycle Discussion / Found another NH for sale...considering
« Last post by NormH3 on December 19, 2017, 09:32:06 AM »
As some here know, I missed out on a very nice NH with very low miles because I hedged on the asking price. Recently, this bike became available and the owner is asking $2500. Kelley states trade in value is $1100 and dealer retail is $1900. It's been on the market for at least of month and is 2 hours from me. Just looking for opinions. Included is the text from the ad.     

"I purchased this bike almost 10 years ago in mint condition with about 15k miles. I put on 10k miles. It is in incredible condition and can be ridden anywhere and everywhere. It's been garage kept, and serviced only by Honda dealers. The only service this bike has ever needed is oil changes each season. Newer chain, tires. Bomb proof engine. Saddle bags, user manual and repair guide included.
do NOT contact me with unsolicited services or offers"

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Looks like a great trip.  So much to experience and too little time to do it.   Thanks for sharing your   adventure.
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The gravel ended up being a non factor, even on a 740 pound ST.   Fear of gravel is MUCH worse than riding gravel.  Plus, I got a story out of it!  Tim, was it about 50 miles?  100 miles would be a better story...

I like the circle route from Muskegon, across the Mighty Mac, to the UP, up to Superior, then south through Door County, then over the ferry back to Muskegon.  Can we go by Iggy's boyhood home?
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Sometimes gravel is unavoidable.  I do my best to plan routes that are pavement.  In the case of this trip,  we detoured on gravel the first day just to save time.  THe second day, I ignored a turn from the planned route because we saw it was gravel.  We pressed on the way we were going only to find that pavement ended a 1/2 mile later.  Who knows what would have been less gravel, but we all made it just fine.

It was a great trip and I'm glad Jim could still make it, even though I had to change the dates.  I'm in the processing of looking for the location for next year. 
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Thanks for sharing your wonderful adventure.  I am Not sure I would like riding on the gravel roads. pics44
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General Motorcycle Discussion / Re: Still Alive and Kickin'?
« Last post by Hondo on December 17, 2017, 11:40:09 AM »
I'm still here, hope everyone is doing well!
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My 60th birthday was on the horizon.  The big six zero is a reminder that I don’t have all the time in the world left; you should not not put off things that you are able to do now. Originally this ride was scheduled to be in early June. It got pushed back to July.  I already had scheduled the days off, so I went to the Grand Canyon, Monument Valley, Moki Dugway, Valley of the Gods and Moab in the convertible with my wife.  When this ride was scheduled in July, I could take the time off, so I did.  I don’t know if I will ever have the opportunity to go back.
This event was organized by the guys from the Nighthawk forum.  Tim, Nick, Guy, Gary and I attended.  Great group of guys to ride with.

This was a trailering event.  The distances involved are so vast and the time allotted so short, riding would be impossible.  I left early Thursday morning, July 26, 2017.

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Made it to a KOA in Waterloo, Iowa.

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I spent a hot night in the back of my Excursion.  I brought a window AC I thought I could set in a window, but I couldn’t make it work.

Friday, July 27, 2017
Got an early start the next morning.  I thought it interesting that Iowa has saddled us with ethanol but offers its residents a choice.

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I got 481 miles on a tank.  Not bad.

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By mid afternoon, I started to notice some different handling when changing lanes.  I stopped at a rest area and checked my tire air pressure.  Sure enough, I had a low front tire. I started looking for the cause and found what I thought was a nail in a tire.  These guys got me going again.
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Soon I was on the road again.
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Before you know it, I was there!
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The Rampfree makes one man unloading a breeze.
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Saturday, July 28, 2017
The next day, we rode.
Lunch at an old firehouse in Rapid City.
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After a fine lunch at the firehouse, we headed towards Badlands. There was noone at the gate, so we got to ride in without paying.  We rode through it on our way to the Minuteman missile.  It closed at 3:00, so we decided to hit it first and come back to Badlands.
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The arms control treaty that eliminated these missiles permitted us and the USSR to maintain one site for historical purposes.  The USSR’s ended up in the Ukraine after the fall of the USSR.  The silos had to have a glass covering so that the overheads (satellite) could verify there was no warhead.
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If we were hungry, Trip Advisor was ready to direct us.
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After a few cold war stories from the knowledgeable tour guide, we headed back to the Badlands.
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As its name implies, the Badlands is a desolate place.  Well, I’ll let the pictures do the talking.
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No we’re not lost.
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Sunday, July 29, 2017
The next day we rode past Rushmore on our way to Devils Tower.
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We rode through Spearfish Canyon and Needles Highway.
After riding a while, including 20 miles of gravel, we stopped for lunch just inside Wyoming.
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Cool old car out front.
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Made it.
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Nice shot of the bikes.
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The ST looks pretty good for its age.
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We blasted back to Keystone right after that.  We had an early dinner and headed to the monument at Rushmore.  We were going to see the lighting of the monument.  We arrived at dusk, so there was an opportunity to capture a few pictures while it was still light.  This place has a massive visitors center.
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Finally, after about a hundred speakers, they lit it up.
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Monday, July 30, 2017
In the morning, we started our final day.  Great breakfast spot.
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After a ride down Iron Mountain Road, we stopped at this lake.  I decided to save my energy for the ride.
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After we left, I broke from the Michigan crew, rode back to the hotel and packed up for the drive home.
I made it to Sioux Falls by nightfall.  This time I decided to rough it in a Super 8.  Sorry no pictures.
Tuesday, July 31, 2017
I made it home late Tuesday.  LOTS of miles.  I think the Excursion used 2 ½ quarts of oil.  Not bad for over 200,000 miles considering I drove to almost Wyoming.  This was the last trp for the X.  I recently sold it and replaced it with a Lexus RX330.
I discovered the ST CAN do gravel.  I probably did about 50 miles all told.  Huge pucker factor though.  Somehow I hurt my back on the backrest and my Helite airbag.  I had the Russell lowered, which raised the backrest up on my back since the seating area is lower.  I was in pain for a lot of the ride.  I think I’ve got that straightened out now.

I’m looking forward to the next trip, Michigan crew!

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General Motorcycle Discussion / Re: Potential purchase (high mileage)
« Last post by Quattro695 on December 14, 2017, 12:18:21 PM »
Thanks for the tips. This would just be a beater to get me back into riding, after many years away. I'm not expecting mint condition on a 80k commuter bike. I just really like the 700s...Maybe I'll keep looking.
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General Motorcycle Discussion / Re: Potential purchase (high mileage)
« Last post by ExTex on December 14, 2017, 08:11:07 AM »
Be sure to check the tires for age.  If over 5 yrs old, use the cost of new tires to lower the price.

If you can get the bike for $750, then it becomes a good deal (for you), if you are "stuck" on the color and design.

Merry Christmas


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General Motorcycle Discussion / Re: Potential purchase (high mileage)
« Last post by DesertDragon on December 14, 2017, 07:53:04 AM »
I would concur with the other opinions so far.. One item to add is finding parts if needed can be a challenge with any 30+ year old bike.
As Mollusc said, there could be a lot of life left in it if it was well cared for.. but if not, it well could be nearing serious trouble land.
It doesn't look particularly well cared for... not just the dents, but rusty bolts whisper neglect...
Excuse me if I'm a bit pedantic, but I don't know your experience level.
Things I'd ask (if you haven't already):
Bike history - How long owner had it - Why selling it - Any maintenance receipts - What has current owner done with it - CAN you let a mechanic check it out..
Check engine oil - sludge or really dirty - I'd walk
It starts and runs - does it smoke- was it cold when first started or did he use a lot of starting fluid a few minutes before you showed up?
How does it ride - clutch and tranny work ok?  Any weird noises (like grinding or whining final drive)
Head shake or not?
How about tire AGE - even if you've got tread, rubber much over 5 years only looks like a tire - Look at the DOT emblem 4 digits WWYY WW = weeks of year YY = year  e.g. 5012 is a tire exactly 5 years old (50 weeks into 2012, or mid December 2012).  Not a deal breaker, but maybe a negotiation point if other things look good.
Rubber parts condition - Some can be replaced aftermarket (e.g. hydraulic lines) but some others are likely shot and need replacement.
This may also tell you some of the story as to how the bike was stored.

I guess the first question should have been what you want to do with a/the bike.
Do you want a beater to blast around the block to get motorcycling checked off your to do list, or are you looking at a long term investment in keeping the bike ?
If it's the later, starting with a bike that has been cared for is worth the restoration effort.



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