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Title: Best retro bike? 2018 Kawasaki Z900
Post by: Rubo on November 12, 2017, 06:58:54 PM
(https://www.cycleworld.com/sites/cycleworld.com/files/styles/655_1x_/public/images/2017/11/z900rs_cafe_-_statics_6.jpg?itok=6VI-Z5Wk)Love this far more HP and lighter then CB and looks amazing.Problem with CB Honda made old man's bike but forgot that baby boomers like myself age 52 still have blood moving inside and we love the option to open it up!
With CB basically it was well Vanilla as usual.
I was thinking to buy the BMW R9T but love this even more.
https://www.cycleworld.com/2018-kawasaki-z900rs-cafe-gives-kawasakis-new-retro-standard-full-cafe-racer-treatment#page-2
Title: Re: Best retro bike? 2018 Kawasaki Z900
Post by: hppants on November 13, 2017, 06:22:44 AM
I think the standard is making a small comeback, and I'm not super surprised seeing as though our generation (I'm 52 also) seems to be the only demographic with money these days.

Suzuki's GSX series offers similar ergonomics, but with a little better wind protection, and you can get it in several sizes (1250 Bandit, 1000, and 750)

http://www.suzukicycles.com/Product%20Lines/Cycles/Products/GSX-S1000/2017/GSXS1000.aspx

Yamaha seems to have split the difference with two general choices:

-  The XSR series (900 and 700)

https://www.yamahamotorsports.com/sport-heritage/models/xsr900

-  The MT series (1000, 900, and 700)

https://www.yamahamotorsports.com/hyper-naked

I'm liking the whole effort, personally.
Title: Re: Best retro bike? 2018 Kawasaki Z900
Post by: mollusc on November 13, 2017, 07:32:06 AM
That Kawaskai is supremely ugly though.
Title: Re: Best retro bike? 2018 Kawasaki Z900
Post by: DesertDragon on November 13, 2017, 09:37:49 AM
It is more difficult to make a good looking, naked, water cooled bike...
They did capture a lot of the look - I rode a KZ900 back in the 70's that you could mistake for the '18 with just a quick glance.
At least there's an option for those of us "allergic" to clip-ons..
 haphap
Title: Re: Best retro bike? 2018 Kawasaki Z900
Post by: hppants on November 13, 2017, 11:50:15 AM
At the MotoGP race in Austin last year, I sat on the Suzuki GSX 1000 and 750 bikes and they are deceptively upright for their look.
Title: Re: Best retro bike? 2018 Kawasaki Z900
Post by: Rubo on November 14, 2017, 08:53:11 AM
That Kawaskai is supremely ugly though.
Would not call this ugly.Take a look again drooler1 pics44
(https://gearheads.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Z900RS.jpg)
Title: Re: Best retro bike? 2018 Kawasaki Z900
Post by: DesertDragon on November 14, 2017, 09:28:32 AM
I agree on looks - I'd prefer the exhaust arrangement on the 'Hawk - more symmetry - but otherwise, slap a fairing on that puppy and it would be good to go without even wearing a disguise...
 yaaaah3
Title: Re: Best retro bike? 2018 Kawasaki Z900
Post by: Rubo on November 14, 2017, 09:56:50 AM
I agree on looks - I'd prefer the exhaust arrangement on the 'Hawk - more symmetry - but otherwise, slap a fairing on that puppy and it would be good to go without even wearing a disguise...
 yaaaah3
111 HP imagine that with light weight, modern redial breaks, slipper clutch,traction control and you got a sport cruiser,commuter and everything in between.
I still love Power.If Honda made the CB over 100HP I would of gone that direction but its heavier and less powerful and not so great suspension and 12k on top of it.Overpriced what you get.
Title: Re: Best retro bike? 2018 Kawasaki Z900
Post by: mollusc on November 14, 2017, 10:42:19 AM
That's more like it.  I was referring specifically to the hideous green monstrosity at the top of this thread with that terrible headlight fairing.
Title: Re: Best retro bike? 2018 Kawasaki Z900
Post by: postoak on November 15, 2017, 12:46:50 PM
I test rode the regular Z900.  If the Z900RS has the same ergonomics, we old guys aren't going to like it at all.  Forward lean angle was okay but the knee bend backward was very bad.  I'm 6'1". 


It is hard to find a standard bike these days which is as comfortable as the Nighthawks of the '90s.  Ones I've found are the new Valkyrie, the Ducati Diavel, and you could add the Triumph Rocket 3, although the foot position is slightly forward on it, making it a cruiser rather than a standard, but it is only slightly forward. Probably next in line is the Triumph Bonneville.
Title: Re: Best retro bike? 2018 Kawasaki Z900
Post by: TDodge7 on November 15, 2017, 03:10:11 PM
I think they both look great but yeah the foot pegs do look a little high and far back for my taste. I'm just happy to see a new standard that isn't just a naked version of a sport bike or trying to look all futuristic with a front fairing/headlight that looks like some sort of robot face.


(https://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/moto_gallery/HONDACB1000R-2613_8.jpg)

 
Title: Re: Best retro bike? 2018 Kawasaki Z900
Post by: Hog Dog on November 15, 2017, 08:32:21 PM
Quite a few good standards to choose from, but for me the NH750 is still the one.
Title: Re: Best retro bike? 2018 Kawasaki Z900
Post by: hppants on November 16, 2017, 06:26:53 AM
A great bike available today to migrate from the NH750 is the Versys 1000LT.  Wonderful neutral riding position for hands, seat, and feet.  Comes with hard luggage and good wind protection.  Comes with ABS and the 1000 ninja motor is bullet proof.  And you can find plenty of leftover '16s and '16s for about $10K, and in many cases, $9,500.
Title: Re: Best retro bike? 2018 Kawasaki Z900
Post by: postoak on November 16, 2017, 08:12:45 AM
The problem with all those adventure bikes is they give you a 0° forward lean angle when you want about 10°.  I'm riding a bike with no lean now and I can tell you for me it becomes uncomfortable in the middle back after about 45 minutes.  The leg room on the adventure bikes is great, though, I agree.
Title: Re: Best retro bike? 2018 Kawasaki Z900
Post by: hppants on November 16, 2017, 03:47:48 PM
I agree with your philosophy regarding forward lean angle.  for myself, I like a bit more than 10 degrees, which is why I now ride an FJR.

I was just making the correlation between the old NH (zero forward lean ) and the big versys.  Although some may trick them out to be an adventure bike, the Versys 1000 is not really anything close to an adventure bike.  Even with 80/20 tires on it, it wouldn't be useful on anything more than a groomed fire service road.