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Your Honda Nighthawk / Re: 93 NH750 Build
« Last post by Adventurer on March 26, 2017, 09:27:29 PM »
Nice restoration! What part of PA?


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Your Honda Nighthawk / Re: Black 1992 Honda Nighthawk CB750
« Last post by Adventurer on March 26, 2017, 05:57:05 PM »
Pretty stoked; Finally scored the hard-to-find Givi hard case / pannier setup for her, semi-locally, yesterday! (Givi Wingrack N140 2 with integrated turn signals, Givi 127 Universal Fit Kit and pair of Givi E21 Monokey hard cases). Had been searching for this quite awhile.





I've done a handful of much smaller upgrades along the way too, but didn't think to pause and post about'em here. (Waterproof USB/AUX Power Jacks, Waterproof GPS Mount, Reupholstered OEM Seat, National F-15 Smoked Fairing, Nylon [Kawasaki] saddle bags, "Blue Job" [chrome cleaner], etc). More to follow, though!

Today I installed an economical, black, aluminum kickstand enlarger with stainless steel hardware too, (as suggested by fellow NHF members).




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General Motorcycle Discussion / Re: Motor as stressed part of frame?
« Last post by John R. Mallory on March 24, 2017, 10:14:26 AM »
Ok.

But Wiki worst on American. Imagine saying  90% of the Mormon brigade voted against  Brigham Young for president...and Vegas didn't have a cylinder wear problem... Northern Ca starts at Ventura....malarkey.

Off Topic.

Guess a few pounds does mean something with racing.

Thanks for the good info chaps. bnna+
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General Motorcycle Discussion / Re: Motor as stressed part of frame?
« Last post by Wahrsuul on March 24, 2017, 04:54:00 AM »
Yeah, Kawasaki used the engine as a stressed frame member in the 80's, the some of the GPz's and later the Ninja had it and still do.  The concours was that way also.  Pretty sure most modern sport bikes still are...
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General Motorcycle Discussion / Re: Motor as stressed part of frame?
« Last post by mollusc on March 23, 2017, 05:08:16 PM »
I didn't mean to imply that you were saying he was American.  More I was trying to point out that it's not just American topics that get heavily edited on Wikipedia.  Over the past five years or so I have noticed a general trimming of Wikipedia overall; my sense is that if you want gritty details, there will be a website for that, and Wikipedia is just for general overviews.


From talking to John and seeing various documentaries and reading stuff about him, his reason for using the engine was because it simplified things a lot.  You didn't have to design two things where you really only needed one.  Sure it saves some weight -- which is important for a track bike -- but that wasn't the primary idea.
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General Motorcycle Discussion / Re: Motor as stressed part of frame?
« Last post by John R. Mallory on March 23, 2017, 02:37:13 PM »
Mollosc, Im sorry I didn't say Britten was American--I said, Wiki is  inadmissible in court (although one tried!), and it  is often  wrong or incomplete,  especially on American subjects: LDS, A/C Cobra,  Chevy Citation (had to edit it myself), Chevy Vega,  Northern/Central California (should see the Talk section--arguments back to '06!), etc.


Rakilla, that's the way it is described to me. If its wrong im sorry.

  I am nebulous on whether  that would be much advantage--seems you only save a few pounds,  even less if Al or Ti or
 carbon fiber--and possibly stress-crack the engine from torque and vibration.

As I said. Wiki gets things wrong. They described the Britten, but did not mention this point. They go on to quote  how Odd it was from NZ--when Burty Monroe hand built his Indian in Invercargill. It has been  surmised  that if he had had  real machine tools, he would have rivaled the Japanese.
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General Motorcycle Discussion / Re: Motor as stressed part of frame?
« Last post by Rakillia on March 23, 2017, 02:06:59 PM »
I'm not sure what you mean by "pre stressed" but if you mean the motor is part of the structural integrity of the frame thats fairly common.  SV650 comes to mind because I had one.  Yes, its to save weight.
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General Motorcycle Discussion / Re: Motor as stressed part of frame?
« Last post by mollusc on March 23, 2017, 12:23:57 PM »
The Britten V1000 was designed, developed, and built by a guy in New Zealand in his home workshop.  The whole thing is basically carbon fibre.  He even invented the paint because he didn't like the colours that were available off the shelf.  Essentially the only off-the-shelf parts were the cylinder liners, some suspension components, and the brake calipers.
It won a whole lot of trophies before John Britten died in 1995.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britten_V1000


NOT American.
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Don't forget the Fake  2-stroke 2-cyclinder 1909 Motorcycle from Big Jake (1971)   (about 30 minutes in)



, and Especially  the retroed 1929 Harley -Davidson  WLA and  black German bike   in Duck, You Sucker  (1971) 



Where did McQueen score a  1961 Triumph in a German POW camp? I've always wondered...

The Wild One also had Lee Marvin on a huge Harley ULH----I always dug that bike.

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General Motorcycle Discussion / Re: Motor as stressed part of frame?
« Last post by John R. Mallory on March 23, 2017, 10:05:01 AM »
Early '90's? Guess I'm out of the loop.

 I tried Wiki but no clear reference .

They are often fulla S*** anyway, about anything American--I can prove it and I have edited without any repercussions as I had a reference.  I've seen technical articles change radically over the years--a strong "opinion", unreferenced, eventually gets purged.
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