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Your Honda Nighthawk / Re: My '96 CB750 "Dragon Bike"
« on: December 27, 2017, 08:30:41 AM »
Hey Norm,
If you like YELLOW (proven by scientific testing to be the fastest color made)...
Looks pretty sweet to me!
Already has a Corbin Gunfighter, tail box. bikini fairing on it.. If you like those..
Even if you don't, no permanent alterations.
Already has a centerstand and case savers, which are must haves...
I couldn't see a defect, except maybe for a slightly askew right front turn signal and maybe worn tires..
It looks like it was well cared for... After you pick it up, head West and I'll meet you at the Grand Canyon...

Removed several pounds of dust and dirt - mostly from rear wheel...
Cleaned and lubed tire chain and checked it, but as usual, no need for adjustment.
Oil still clean and right where it should be...

Hmmm... Time for a ride!

General Motorcycle Discussion / Re: Merry Christmas!
« on: December 26, 2017, 01:06:20 PM »
Now if only Santa had a NightHawk....
Hope you had a Happy Hanukkah!

General Motorcycle Discussion / Re: Merry Christmas!
« on: December 24, 2017, 12:09:53 PM »
Note to self:
Add Happy New Year as part of "Standard Christmas Greeting"...

General Motorcycle Discussion / Re: Found another NH for sale...considering
« on: December 23, 2017, 10:40:14 AM »
Engine is not black, its an older one...
Wow - I knew that the '96 was the first year for the blacked out engine (and Superior YELLOW paint)...
One cosmetic reason I chose my bike was because of the blacked out power plant...
So all 750 NH engines all black from 96 on? 
I had thought it was just an attractive option...

General Motorcycle Discussion / Merry Christmas!
« on: December 23, 2017, 10:29:13 AM »
Here's hoping that you all have a great Christmas with family and/or friends, and if your weather permits, have a great ride!
West of the Grand Canyon here, it's sunny and 60's for Christmas...
I'm thinking I'll get the "sleigh" out...

Ho! Ho! Ho! 


General Motorcycle Discussion / Re: Found another NH for sale...considering
« on: December 21, 2017, 08:45:12 AM »
There you go!
BTW - If you talk to anyone knowledgeable about the subject, a used helmet is a bad idea.
I know you already have one, in "stylish yellow" as I recall...
For myself, having soft bags available is a plus, and a tank bag comes in really handy.
My 2 cents.
Did you ever find out what year the bike is?


General Motorcycle Discussion / Re: Found another NH for sale...considering
« on: December 20, 2017, 08:39:06 AM »
Hey Norm,
It looks pretty clean except for the header discoloration.. Maybe it was/is running a bit too lean...
Kelly blue book is pretty much worthless for bikes, for a variety of reasons.
What year is it ??
A 2003 is worth more than a 1993...
Since it's dealer serviced, you might be able to talk to their service department to see what has been done over 10 years...
The guy should also have receipts.  If it's only oil changes, I'd be surprised.
Recent spark plugs (how they look speaks volumes regarding engine conditions) / Compression test results / carb synch and any other maintenance performed / replaced in the last 10 years (battery / tire AGE/ brake fluid change / etc...)
I would use the lack of some needed accessories (center stand / case savers) and any needed maintenance as bargaining chips.

It does look like it's in very good cosmetic condition.
Normally "asking" $2500 means an offer is acceptable, and as Raven said, it can't hurt to make an offer.
I would suggest you do yourself a favor and wait to discuss price in person.
The last thing a seller wants to hear is someone trying to low ball before they even show up.
If you make a good "actual value" case, a reasonable person will negotiate. 
There's something about seeing someone with a handful of Franklins that makes the lower offer more acceptable.

General Motorcycle Discussion / Re: Potential purchase (high mileage)
« on: December 14, 2017, 07:53:04 AM »
I would concur with the other opinions so far.. One item to add is finding parts if needed can be a challenge with any 30+ year old bike.
As Mollusc said, there could be a lot of life left in it if it was well cared for.. but if not, it well could be nearing serious trouble land.
It doesn't look particularly well cared for... not just the dents, but rusty bolts whisper neglect...
Excuse me if I'm a bit pedantic, but I don't know your experience level.
Things I'd ask (if you haven't already):
Bike history - How long owner had it - Why selling it - Any maintenance receipts - What has current owner done with it - CAN you let a mechanic check it out..
Check engine oil - sludge or really dirty - I'd walk
It starts and runs - does it smoke- was it cold when first started or did he use a lot of starting fluid a few minutes before you showed up?
How does it ride - clutch and tranny work ok?  Any weird noises (like grinding or whining final drive)
Head shake or not?
How about tire AGE - even if you've got tread, rubber much over 5 years only looks like a tire - Look at the DOT emblem 4 digits WWYY WW = weeks of year YY = year  e.g. 5012 is a tire exactly 5 years old (50 weeks into 2012, or mid December 2012).  Not a deal breaker, but maybe a negotiation point if other things look good.
Rubber parts condition - Some can be replaced aftermarket (e.g. hydraulic lines) but some others are likely shot and need replacement.
This may also tell you some of the story as to how the bike was stored.

I guess the first question should have been what you want to do with a/the bike.
Do you want a beater to blast around the block to get motorcycling checked off your to do list, or are you looking at a long term investment in keeping the bike ?
If it's the later, starting with a bike that has been cared for is worth the restoration effort.

According to Clymer for the 91+ NightHawk 750 series, the "later" versions of the cables are teflon lined and don't need lube.
They say don't lube them.  My bike is 21 years old, and I still have original cables that work fine, and I've never lubricated them.
Some say that when you think you need lube, you need a new cable. I would think a teflon lube would be okay in a teflon lined cable, but...
I did replace my speedometer cable, but that one isn't lined and needs grease.


Plus the occasional brake friction-material change, cable lube, and tire pressure top-off.
..trying to highlight the differences... tire pressure and wear parts are ubiquitous.. oem control cables with teflon lining don't need lube..

I still feel that my NH is the best bang for the buck, especially when the buck has priority.  bkr3
I agree Larry, especially when it comes to AFTER you buy the bike.
On the 'Hawk...
Cam chain adjust .. Nope.
Timing adjustment - Nope.
Valve adjustment - Nope.
Anyone with minimal skills can easily keep a NH750 maintained, and there isn't much to do.
Compare the never need to adjust 16 valve hydros to a 16 valve bucket and shim dealer adjustment option.
Over time, maintenance costs add up.
If you buy a cleanable oil filter, that means a filter clean, oil change and chain adjustments.

Your Honda Nighthawk / Re: Tank restoration
« on: November 22, 2017, 08:31:54 AM »
A one stop shop that does it all would be a custom builder / restorer willing to work on a Honda.
If such a place exists, the bill for what you are asking would consist of a long series of numbers and commas...

You might consider doing the internals yourself (you can find some good success stories on the forum).
Candy paint is incredibly hard to match, even for an expert.
It might be less expensive to have all the body work repainted rather than even trying to get the tank to match the other bodywork.

If you can find a similar paint, an auto body / paint place can "un-ding" the tank and shoot the paint / clear-coat.
Finding original emblems will be a job in itself.
If these are decals, you may have to do some serious scrounging and/or settle for something similar.

Probably not what you wanted to hear, but one of the issues with a 34 year old bike is parts (un)availability.

General Motorcycle Discussion / Re: What's up wid dat??
« on: November 18, 2017, 07:59:18 AM »
On the average, a motorcycle battery lasts 2 years.
If it didn't need a battery now, it probably would before spring. The NH bikes develop hard start syndrome long before the battery is toast. Buy your own battery (pick a good one) instead of the lowball junk sellers usually throw in before the sale and you will be money ahead. Buy a Battery Tender at the same time and your new quality battery may last 5 years...
I'm either leading a charmed life, or a little maintenance goes a long way...
I bought a YUSA AGM battery in October of 2006, and it is still in great shape.  That's 11 + years!
An AGM will cost a bit more, but they never need water added.  Worth the extra IMHO.
My secret - Whenever it's parked, I hook up the battery (I've got a quick connect) to a Battery Tender Jr.

General Motorcycle Discussion / Re: Best retro bike? 2018 Kawasaki Z900
« on: November 14, 2017, 09:28:32 AM »
I agree on looks - I'd prefer the exhaust arrangement on the 'Hawk - more symmetry - but otherwise, slap a fairing on that puppy and it would be good to go without even wearing a disguise...

General Motorcycle Discussion / Re: Best retro bike? 2018 Kawasaki Z900
« on: November 13, 2017, 09:37:49 AM »
It is more difficult to make a good looking, naked, water cooled bike...
They did capture a lot of the look - I rode a KZ900 back in the 70's that you could mistake for the '18 with just a quick glance.
At least there's an option for those of us "allergic" to clip-ons..

People on riding mowers need love (and waves) too...

Cool Stuff!
Glad you like the Avon's - They keep getting better as they wear in..

Your Ride Reports / Re: See for Yourself
« on: November 08, 2017, 08:10:21 AM »
Good pics Pants!
Looks like a good time was had by all.
As usual, you included enough "food porn" that I've got to go find SOMETHING to eat!

The wave at a bike convention, is like a "high-five" for a baseball player after a home run.
By the end, the enthusiasm is gone, and he just needs to sit down...

I had to change the fork gaskets...and the steering head bearings
When you're done, if you sold it, would it be advertised as a 2017 NightHawk..

The "double handed rotational geek" was my invention on this thread to attempt to describe the action of the guy who:
- Did the "Geek Wave" (aka Hi Mom!)
- Did it with both hands, and
- Rotated his wrists so that hands oscillated, describing an arc of appx 100 degrees

The other way to describe it, is the guy waved at me with both hands...

I live outside of a town where everybody waves at everyone (dirt road rules). 
Out on the interstate, there are a lot of Harley riders, many of whom are renting bikes in Vegas and driving to the Grand Canyon.
I know because I talk to them at the gateway town of Williams.
Maybe that skews my results, because I get both initiation and reciprocation from riders on Harleys,
Or maybe it's the Dragons on my bike...
For the guys wearing colors - Yep - The "Great Divide" is there.
That's OK. 
If someone doesn't reply, it doesn't bother me, as I feel like I've done my part. 
If they don't respond - Their loss - Not mine.
One of the best waves I've seen initiated was from a guy who gave me the "double handed rotational geek".
Yes, it requires a high confidence level, a throttle positioner, good tires and commitment, but the effort was appreciated.
Hmm. Gives me an idea for a new thread...

General Motorcycle Discussion / Re: Where did that TDodge7 guy go?
« on: November 05, 2017, 03:32:50 PM »
... to help with the replacement El Camino engine fund. Looks nice though, currently I'm spending most of my time trying to get it going again.
You're right about that El Camino ! 
One word description - "DANG!" 
That is a clean '85... a nice slice of Western Romance you got there.. 
Maybe a 327 and you'll have a haulin' hauler..

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